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    New Chameleon

    About to pull the trigger on a new Chameleon hammock and upgrade from my ENO but Iím concerned about my cocoon that I currently use. The Snugpak Cocoon is the only gear that I currently own and love. It would be a deal breaker if I found out I couldnít use it with my new hammock.

    I currently remove my ridge line, install my cocoon, and then reinstall my ridgeline. Does anyone see any reason why I wouldnít be able to do the same thing w a new Chameleon or is the ridgeline permanently attached. Sorry for the newb question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aginhouse View Post
    About to pull the trigger on a new Chameleon hammock and upgrade from my ENO but Iím concerned about my cocoon that I currently use. The Snugpak Cocoon is the only gear that I currently own and love. It would be a deal breaker if I found out I couldnít use it with my new hammock.

    I currently remove my ridge line, install my cocoon, and then reinstall my ridgeline. Does anyone see any reason why I wouldnít be able to do the same thing w a new Chameleon or is the ridgeline permanently attached. Sorry for the newb question.

    AG
    The ridgeline is not permanently attached to the Chameleon, but you do have to undo the continuous loop to remove it. If this will be a normal part of your setup routine, you might want to come up with a way that will make it quicker and easier to disconnect and reconnect. However, keep in mind whatever you choose needs to have a decent load rating, not a cheapo carabiner.

    This might be just about the best piece of hardware for the job.

    https://dutchwaregear.com/product/ti...geline-biners/

    Note that if your suspension angles are correct, the ridgeline will not be under a great deal of tension. It looks like this Ti ridgeline biner is rated for 100 lbs. If you want something more bombproof, use a full size biner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmc4free View Post
    The ridgeline is not permanently attached to the Chameleon, but you do have to undo the continuous loop to remove it. If this will be a normal part of your setup routine, you might want to come up with a way that will make it quicker and easier to disconnect and reconnect. However, keep in mind whatever you choose needs to have a decent load rating, not a cheapo carabiner.

    This might be just about the best piece of hardware for the job.

    https://dutchwaregear.com/product/ti...geline-biners/
    I like it, thank you

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    Can you use the bug net with the cocoon on?

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    I'm not sure about the particulars of the Cocoon you mentioned, but based on photos I'm seeing it looks like the Chameleon bugnet could get in the way of using that product. The net is removable of course, but if you're never going to use the net, you'd be better off with a netless hammock, which would be like an upgraded version of your Eno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmc4free View Post
    I'm not sure about the particulars of the Cocoon you mentioned, but based on photos I'm seeing it looks like the Chameleon bugnet could get in the way of using that product. The net is removable of course, but if you're never going to use the net, you'd be better off with a netless hammock, which would be like an upgraded version of your Eno.
    I agree. If you're committed to that 69 ounce (sixty-nine ounces!) Snugpak Cocoon, you're better off with a basic netless hammock. The Chameleon is more of a centerpiece of your hammock system, but if you already want the Snugpak Cocoon to be your centerpiece, then choose that.
    "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." Ralph Waldo Emerson

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    New Chameleon

    I agree. If youíre really looking to use the Cocoon, save the money and weight. Buy the netless.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aikirunner View Post
    I agree. If youíre really looking to use the Cocoon, save the money and weight. Buy the netless.


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    Couldnít use the bug net w the cocoon but in the winter I donít need the big net. However, in the summer or warmer nights I would add the bug net and go w a lighter underquilt. I turn to the cocoon system when itís in the 40ís. Pretty dang comfy!

    69 nine ounces LOL. Itís def not a light weight backpacking option but very comfy if your car camping.

    I appreciate everyoneís quick response. Iíll probably go w the basic hammock and then add the bug net in the spring or when a sale is announced.

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