Wet top quilt, again!

[TrailSlug]

That was me that asked about the weight due to moisture build up. I have never done a downtown study of this but by experience only I have stopped using down and have switched to climashield (APEX). I was first impressed with this type of insulation from a wiggy's bag I bought years ago. I went thru the whole "down" is better "down" is lighter phase and have come back full circle to synthetic is all around the best insulation out there - no moisture build up dries super fast no compression issues (I have literally stored my sleeping bag under heavy compression all the time and it is just like brand new - I have owned and used it every year for the past 18 years). Yes it is heavier and yes down compresses better but performance wise you just cannot beat APEX - just my opinion not trying to convenience anyone to change! HYOH!

Yea, I tried one of these "non down" Apex quilts and I'll take damp down any day over this. It's not warm enough for me, weighs a ton, and I'd need a 105 liter bag to take this on backpacking trips.

[blgoode]

The time I noticed any frost on my TQ was in the cold when I had no Butner. I now use my bug net all the time and haven’t noticed anything like when I didn’t use it.

[TrailSlug]

The time I noticed any frost on my TQ was in the cold when I had no Butner. I now use my bug net all the time and haven’t noticed anything like when I didn’t use it.

Goog point. I always use my bug net and it must hold a lot of moisture as the last time I had a heavy frost when I woke up to unzip it was like snow coming off the bug net. It must help hold some of the moisture in as well as out.

[blgoode]

I do remember the snow like effect last winter. Glad that’s not a huge issue. Might be from breath vs coming through from body heat.

[OneClick]

Yea, I tried one of these "non down" Apex quilts and I'll take damp down any day over this. It's not warm enough for me, weighs a ton, and I'd need a 105 liter bag to take this on backpacking trips.

I agree. My favorite quote:



I'm starting to wonder if my TQ dampness is due to using a quilt that is right at, or even higher-rated than the actual temp. That is the only common thing among all these wet TQ trips. 20° TQ at 19°, 0° TQ at -16°, 20° TQ at 23°. Maybe my warm air is just hitting that outer shell to easily?

I was looking forward to testing this VB liner this week, but the cold snap will be over and lows will be 25°+...totally bummed!!! I missed the 3-day window of single digit lows. Could even get rain Saturday. Come on winter!!

[blgoode]

Now that’s an idea. Maybe next time take 110° minimum over the predicted temperature

[Dvankirk]

Since I camp a lot in high humidity areas and I've never tried synthetic quilts, I ordered a set of Up insulated quilts from Cedar Ridge to give them a test. Looking forward to giving them a good test.

[cmoulder]

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I was looking forward to testing this VB liner this week, but the cold snap will be over and lows will be 25°+...totally bummed!!! I missed the 3-day window of single digit lows. Could even get rain Saturday. Come on winter!!

Dang, I'm bummed. We had a nice little base of snow across the river in Harriman and now the warm temps and heavy rain are completely obliterating it!

[cmoulder]

Since I camp a lot in high humidity areas and I've never tried synthetic quilts, I ordered a set of Up insulated quilts from Cedar Ridge to give them a test. Looking forward to giving them a good test.

I'm interested to see what happens but in sustained very cold temps ice will also start building up. My experience, at least.

[cmoulder]

Yea, I tried one of these "non down" Apex quilts and I'll take damp down any day over this. It's not warm enough for me, weighs a ton, and I'd need a 105 liter bag to take this on backpacking trips.

Many years back I had a Wiggy's bag rated -20°F and darn near needed a hydraulic ram to get the size manageable enough for a 85L McHale.