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    Differential underquilt vs. Non-differential UQ

    For anyone that has owned both a differentially cut underquilt and one that was not, would you ever in the future buy or make an underquilt that is not a differential UQ? Or if you are buying or making an underquilt for the first time, how important is a differential cut.
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    My belief is that the differentially cut quilts are much better at their jobs than a flat quilt. I can't say that I would 'never' buy a flat quilt because sometimes a good deal is just a good deal. However, given a choice and the funds, I'd always pick a differentially cut quilt first.
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    The ONLY reason I would consider a flat versus differential UQ is if for some reason I wanted it to be dual use as a top quilt also. But that's a mote point really because (1) I can get away with a narrower shorter UQ than would work as a TQ, and (2) if I were to BUY another quilt it would be a deep winter TQ of the type starting to come out of our local cottage industry guys, (3) I can't justify BUYING another quilt because I must have over a pound of down left from one down buy or another that I need to use first to make one.

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    Honestly, after helping MrsMustardman make our differentially cut UQ's, it takes an extra couple of minutes of confirming your math during the design stage, and no real extra labor, so I see no reason to do anything that's not a differential design. The only exception might be a sewn-thru summer quilt, where the differential wouldn't make much sense to begin with.

    Even for a TQ, I think the differential cut makes sense, since the quilt is gonna be curved around you anyway. I've played with our UQs and they make mighty warm TQ's too.

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    It would have to be a good deal for me to buy a non-differential, rectangular underquilt for an end-gathered hammock. I think putting a rectangular quilt on the bottom of an end-gathered hammock sucks. I think rectangular topquilts with drawcords that make the footboxes suck too.

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    Coldspring - I think we all understand now that you don't like JRB's products. Let it rest.
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    I'm with Cannibal and Mustardman. Adding a differential doesn't take too much extra effort, but it does take a little more time in the design/planning stage. For that reason, maybe it's a bit much for a FIRST quilt project depending on how adventurous the stitcher is. (Stitcher sounds much better than sewer, IMO... )

    But I think differential designs fit much better than flat-shell designs...you can pull them tight to get a great fit and not worry about compressing the down.

    I think it makes better sense for a TQ as well, if you're only talking about fit. And for the same reason...your body is a 3D shape so a 3D quilt will fit it better.

    But you do give up multi-use any time you're making something specifically for a single-use. E.g. - the Winter Yeti and MWUQ are great fits for underquilts. But I often use the MWUQ4 as a top quilt as well...can't do that with the Yeti b/c it's not full-length. At the same time, the MWUQ4 fits better as an underquilt than the Stealth...but I can't wear the MWUQ4 as a poncho. So I love the NS and Stealth design and often use them as worn insulation. I like the multi-use design and think it fulfills its role admirably.

    That said, you could make a differentially cut UQ that has a poncho hole in it.
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    Hi: I'm relatively new to hammocks, but have been sewing for about 50 years. My first UQ with baffles was rectangular non-diff. I used down sucked out of an old sleeping bag. I find it hard to get the UQ snug without smooshing the down. It's heavier than it needs to be due to the extra fabric that just has to be gathered anyway and it doesn't fit very well at the ends. It was a good learning experience with putting in the baffles and the down, but now I'm gearing up for UQ #2 as a gift for a friend. She has a gathered end also so there is no doubt I'm going diff this time, probably shaped also, sort of like a blunt end canoe. I'm still in the thinking stage, but am getting closer to actual cutting and sewing. As others have said, I think the sewing will be fine, it's the planning and decisions that are more difficult with this type of quilt.

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    The planning stages are my favorite part. It's kinda like daydraming about making gear without the seam ripping. I will only make differential quilts in the future. It is amazing how much we have changed in just 2 years. bridge hammocks, differential baffles, and whoopie slings. Can't wait to see what is around the bend. I hope it's Shug.
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    I'd by a non-dif in one circumstance... if it was really cheap
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