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    Advice on hammock sleeves

    I will have a Sparrow (net only), SLD 30 degree quilt, sleeping bag (for now), sleeping bag liner, and maybe a pillow . . . . . which hammock sleeves should I be looking at? Don't want a lot of excess fabric but would be nice to go to larger quilts in future without getting new sleeves.

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    Simply Light Designs makes a Catch-All Sack that might work for you.

    https://simplylightdesigns.com/colle...catch-all-sack

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    Learnedhat,

    I am not sure what you mean by "hammock sleeves" but maybe you may be referring to an Underquilt Protector. Maybe you are also talking about a hammock sock.

    If you are talking about just packing up your hammock, quilts etc. in one sleeve sock, for what its worth, I can take my 2QZQ Underquilt Protector and put both quilts, and my hammock into it for travel/backpacking. I just tie it off in three places with my cotton shoelaces, I use for drip lines. That said, if you want a specific use product, Andy K's post above may be what you are looking for.

    If you are talking about a hammock sock, this covers the entire hammock setup and protects the sleeper from moisture, wind and minimal rain. Dream Hammock used to make these but I dont think they do anymore. Ive never used my Dream Hammock Raven Overcover/Sock as I have heard so many people post problems with condensation. However, you could also fit your whole setup in this I imagine for backpacking/travel.

    Have a good weekend.

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    I'm not a "hammock sleeve" believer, and I think they're a fairly niche product without a huge following, but in addition to the SLD catch all sack, this is the only other one I'm aware of. It has a cool feature the SLD version doesn't, where it basically closes up like a more compact double ended stuff sack.

    https://www.dreamhammock.com/shop.ht...tegory=4019214

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    Not having easy access to the US cottage vendors I went for a DD Hammocks XL - Sleeve (11 GBP / $14 USD) to stow my hammock and quilts. The XL - Sleeve swallows up my Chameleon regular, with Moonlight top, 20F HG Econ UQ, 20F Cumulus Tiaga 360 TQ, Hangtime Hook, Peak Shelf, Pillow and HG ridgeline organiser. If I take my time and slid the TQ up further towards the foot end I get less of a taper and give both quilts a little more room to loft inside the sleeve. Which is what I do if I intend to leave the system stowed in camp for longer periods.

    The sleeve isn't the lightest material but it makes setting up and striking down super easy and efficient. It adds an added layer of protection from water in transit as well as in camp. It allows for a lot more room under the tarp on those days when you have to sit out a storm and you need room to cook or socialise etc. The down has enough room to loft to a reasonable state, so the quilts don't suffer from extended periods of excessive compression, and it speeds up lofting when ready to crash for the night. For added protection in the pack I often pack the whole sleep system into a 20L dry bag. Another advantage is that the UQ doesn't require any adjustments after redeploying each time.

    Personally this approach works great for me and it has lots of advantages and no negatives to speak of imho.







    P.S. No shame in using a sleeping bag I used to use my Canada Jay -35c synthetic 2.4kg sleeping bag, and it worked a treat in my hammocks (having a top center zip helps). The 20L dry bag on the left has my compete sleep system in it, and the 22L right contains just the Canada Jay. I don't miss the extra weight and volume.

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    That is pretty neat - I just need to compare having two stuff sacks vs one larger one. That 20 ltr looks like it would take up some room but . . . also has most of your stuff.

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    This: https://www.amazon.com/Hammock-Bliss.../dp/B003AWXBII
    will take you to a "skin" for your hammock and - unless maybe it's a big puffy 0 degree UQ - your under quilt. It's purpose is to cover an outdoor hammock - especially if it's long term; i.e. all summer - and protect it from UV rays. I'm pretty sure - but check first - that it's big enough to encapsulate your UQ too. I used them for a while, but my hammocks packed better in their double ended stuff sacks. I suppose someone could argue that this sun shield is a double ended stuff sack; just a really long one.

    Here's another vendor on Amazon - Wise Owl Outfitters Hammock Sleeve

    Doesn't look like there is a color choice. Too bad. If it were in camo it would have a teensy bit more appeal. I'm thinking of something in a campground setting where the less it stands out, the better. I'm not saying camo would be invisible - it just wouldn't stand out so much.

    The Bliss model looks like black - so it may be better than camo. But mine (at least 5 years ago) were blue. So if color is important to you, be sure to check with the seller first.
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    I enjoyed my sleeve when I had it. But the time it saved didnt warrent the weight.
    If you get one, make sure it is made from mesh, or at least has mesh in it. Packing a all ripstop sack into a bag is like packing an inflated wacky inflatable arm man into your backpack. Not impossable but not easy.

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    Those Hammock sleeves - as compared to Tarp Sleeves - are pretty wide and open well on both ends. It's not like stuffing a sleeping bag or Quilt in a dry bag. And interior wetness - like a non-mesh tarp sleeve with wet tarp - is not a problem because the hammock and UQ are supposed to be dry. By UQ I'm thinking some something closer to summer weight and length. When I was using it, I didn't try to max out the volume to see what it would hold. I just recall I could pull it over the hammock and UQ I was using at the time. But I am old; I forget. And it was a few years ago. So a sleeve for Hammock and Bug Net - easy peasy. If a TQ or UQ is included, YMMV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LearnedHat View Post
    That is pretty neat - I just need to compare having two stuff sacks vs one larger one. That 20 ltr looks like it would take up some room but . . . also has most of your stuff.
    I find it very convenient having everything packed together in one package. When I get home from a trip I air out my hammock gear and dry the tarp. Those pictures are how my gear ends up after every trip. And how I prep and check my gear before each trip. All I have to do is skin everything up and stick in my pack with clean cloths, food and water before hitting the road.

    The 20L dry bag could be compressed a little more but for me it's not worth putting the down under more pressure than I need to. I use an Osprey Aether 90L pack so there is plenty of space for the 20L sack in the main compartment. It's actually quiet efficient space wise in my experience, because it fits tightly to one side. Everything else is stuffed in and around it, so I don't have many if any voids, because there is enough give in the sack to mould round other objects to some extent.

    If I used a smaller pack then having individual components in separate stuff sacks would probably make more sense.

    Camping out in the UK usually involves getting wet more often than not...using this method I'm confident that my sleeping gear is always dry. I tend to base camp for a few days at a time - being able to keep my hammock up and out of the way gives me more room under the tarp. If I want to take a nap in the afternoon I can just slid the hammock out. And because the down is only lightly compressed in the sleeve it lofts up pretty quickly.

    I wouldn't gain much if I dropped the stuff sack and just stuffed the sleeved up sleep gear in the pack. I'm also a bit anal when it comes to organising my gear, I like everything in its place. It also helps me keep track of everything.

    I would really like a less bulky lighter weight Sil Poly version of the sleeve, with the same dimensions or a slightly larger diameter. The larger diameter would allow for heavier winter quilts, or with my 20F quilts I could probably store the whole system hung up and enclosed in the sleeve.

    As @chapinb mentioned above squeezing the air out can be a pain. I just leave the draw cord slightly open on the end that will pack last, and pull it tight before closing up the drybag. It would probably be worth having a mesh section at each end of the sleeve to help release the trapped air.



    I'm not sure why this packing method isn't more popular than it appears to be? I get that the ultralight folk might baulk at the weight of the sleeve, but for regular low milage campers it would seem to have more advantages than disadvantages. Maybe I'm missing something?
    Iirc @chesapeake had a thread or post on here about the SLD Hammock Catch-all. Below is a YT video he did showing the Catch-all in action. His winter version looks significantly roomier than my DD XL-Sleeve.

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