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    Otter1's Avatar
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    Have fun practicing and developing ways to get the job done! I like the S-hook idea.

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    I've found it easier for me to follow a printed illustration to tie button knots.

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    This video was a great help for me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNlgAqo0cc8

    I learned the diamond knot during my Whoopie Sling phase but was never a fan of the two tails. I like the Button Knot because the two tails disappear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cmoulder View Post
    This is true! Which is why I no longer rig up the tarp RL to the point that it's banjo-string tight. Still pretty taut, but a little "give" in there. Early on in my hammock learning curve I did not anticipate this possibility.
    If you take your tarp down in the morning and the ridge line is looser than it was when you set it up, you likely set it up too tight. A little slack isn't a horrible thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by cougarmeat View Post
    This video was a great help for me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNlgAqo0cc8

    I learned the diamond knot during my Whoopie Sling phase but was never a fan of the two tails. I like the Button Knot because the two tails disappear.
    Here's an alternative way to handle the two tails on the diamond knot. Leave long tails coming out of the top of the knot. Hang on the knot once or twice to get it to set. Then take the two tails where they exit the top of the diamond knot and splice a locked brummel in them. And then, splice one leg through the core of the second. You'll have a nice neat single tail sticking out and the locked brummel will guarantee the tails can't be sucked through the knot.

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    You don't necessarily need to be able to tie a button knot to make a small Evo Loop. Just use a bead instead. Or a T-stopper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikekiM View Post
    If you can bend these hooks with a pliers they are quite vulnerable to bending as the trees sway. I've seen all sorts of makeshift hooks either bend or snap in half the first time two trees sway in opposite directions.
    Hadn't thought of that.

    Quote Originally Posted by hutzelbein View Post
    You don't necessarily need to be able to tie a button knot to make a small Evo Loop. Just use a bead instead. Or a T-stopper.
    Hadn't thought of that either.



    Every time I come to this site, I read something else that gets my brain working and then my fingers and gear want to follow. I've had to order more line recently because of all the splicing tips and tricks I've been tinkering with. I guess that's the idea, isn't it? Try a lot ... keep what works for you.
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    Thatís part of the fun.. keep trying different options. Thatís how new ideas are born and how old ideas are reborn!!

    After trying all kinds of hardware at both ends of the tarp ridge line Iíve settled on the diamond knot / figure eight splice at both ends. I went back to a CRL for a few hangís (thatís where I started years ago) and prefer split RLs with the diamond knots and a ucr for adjusting. Nothing to bend or break.


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