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    Senior Member cmoulder's Avatar
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    You really can't go wrong with any of those choices, and if the whoopies are working for you there's no need to change.

    Daisy chains are going to weigh about twice as much as the equivalent length of plain webbing made from the same material. And then you need a couple of ~20g carabiners. My personal choice is 10g/m Kevlar webbing, tied to hammock CL with Lapp Hitch, but I'm a bit of an oddball in that regard. Sounds like you might not want to do knots, but others are Becket hitch, J-bend and X-bend.

    What to do with whoopies... take a look at some youtube videos on splicing and perhaps make some dog bone extensions (for very big trees) or continuous loops etc. If you hammock a lot, CLs will wear out at some point.
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    I would endorse the Trail Winder — I have two of them, one asym and one symmetrical (after I noticed that I move around too much in my sleep). I have to switch it up when I change from my 11’ Trail Lair to my 12’ netless hammock, but otherwise, it’s just set and forget. The only real catch is that since it doesn’t have shock cord all the way along each side, my quilt hooks aren’t super useful with it. The Climashield is quite warm, though it doesn’t compress as much as down. Jared is super fast, and his prices are very reasonable.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Raladd View Post
    I would endorse the Trail Winder — I have two of them, one asym and one symmetrical (after I noticed that I move around too much in my sleep). I have to switch it up when I change from my 11’ Trail Lair to my 12’ netless hammock, but otherwise, it’s just set and forget. The only real catch is that since it doesn’t have shock cord all the way along each side, my quilt hooks aren’t super useful with it. The Climashield is quite warm, though it doesn’t compress as much as down. Jared is super fast, and his prices are very reasonable.


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    I also am a fan of the TW. If the shock cord that runs in the sides, like a knotty mod, get cinched up a bit not only does it help spread it (side to side) and eliminate air spaces but it pretty much makes any kind of supplemental suspension unneeded, at least that's my experience.

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    Back to hammocking , advice needed...

    There are different weight and bulk daisy chain hammock suspension straps.
    Some are very heavy and bulky.

    But Dutch has a daisy chain that is, lightest weight and least bulk. They are light enough to make them your “entire” suspension from tree to hammock.
    Spider Daisy Chain Webbing

    It’s very light, very strong, and packs down with minimal bulk

    It is my go to hammock suspension
    I’ve tweaked it a bit for myself to use no knots and no hardware.

    Dutch sells some titanium hardware for attaching strap to continuous loop, and I’ve also seen hammock campers use carabiners, care must be taken to ensure that those carabiners are shaped for the job.

    Spider Daisy Chain Webbing from Dutch is what I use.

    Zero slippage! Zero jamming!
    Last edited by Phantom Grappler; 05-16-2021 at 18:06.

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