Down color

**cmoulder** · 09-13-2022, 07:28

For reference, here is a pic of a quilt from another vendor that illustrates this down see-thru effect. Most assuredly this is not mold...

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**Rolloff** · 09-13-2022, 11:51

Indeed. Duck down does change the equation somewhat.

The more I look at that mottling though, the more cringeworthy it gets. If it doesn't stink and still keeps you warm at the rated temps, then hike on.

**TominMN** · 09-13-2022, 13:17

Originally Posted by Rolloff

Indeed. Duck down does change the equation somewhat.

The more I look at that mottling though, the more cringeworthy it gets. If it doesn't stink and still keeps you warm at the rated temps, then hike on.

I think the "Smell Test" is definitely called for here. If it smells like a duck...

Maybe more importantly: Is this a change from how it looked new or is it something you just never noticed before?

**campnfish** · 09-13-2022, 13:29

There is no smell and i let my quilts sit on my couch after each trip for about a week which is AC controlled. There is no discoloration on the outer fabric, there is no funky smells, the dark color is the insulation, here are some more close up photos and i think shown it better to be the duck down.

**cmoulder** · 09-13-2022, 13:33

Here's a pic of a EE Enigma 950FP that I got in January. 10D shell.

I don't know much about the variables in the down separation process. However it's clear that some (or many) dark clusters make it through the winnowing stages and 'make the grade'...

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**TominMN** · 09-13-2022, 13:45

Originally Posted by cmoulder

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I don't know much about the variables in the down separation process. However it's clear that some (or many) dark clusters make it through the winnowing stages and 'make the grade'...

Pretty common for duck down to be grey-ish in my experience. Sometimes it's just the "acceptable" percentage of non-down feathers in the mix.

**campnfish** · 09-13-2022, 13:53

Originally Posted by TominMN

I think the "Smell Test" is definitely called for here. If it smells like a duck...

Maybe more importantly: Is this a change from how it looked new or is it something you just never noticed before?

I purchased it from a member here, 2019 original photos shown below, i think maybe it was the lighting and i noticed so much more last night as i was getting it out for a trip, possibly i just never noticed in the past.

**Countrybois** · 09-13-2022, 14:35

.. from Allied

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**cmoulder** · 09-13-2022, 19:37

EE 950fp down is "grey goose down" and has some — and it appears a lot! — of darker plumules in it.

Per Countrybois's post, it's a good thing that they don't bleach it these days, and that as a result even the highest FP has dark bits.

And now, everybody is moving away from DWR treated down as well. WM and FF must be feeling a bit smug right about now!

**Kmazuro** · 09-13-2022, 20:17

Originally Posted by cmoulder

EE 950fp down is "grey goose down" and has some — and it appears a lot! — of darker plumules in it.

Per Countrybois's post, it's a good thing that they don't bleach it these days, and that as a result even the highest FP has dark bits.

And now, everybody is moving away from DWR treated down as well. WM and FF must be feeling a bit smug right about now!

I just wanted to caution about that last statement…(I don’t want people to think they are getting an inferior product if their quilt manufacturer uses treated down). A lot of manufacturers use treated down, some don’t. I don’t see any kind of mass exodus away from treated down. It’s been debated for years. It seems for all the info you find deeming it unnecessary or even harmful you’ll find twice as much out their touting the benefits…. MY OPINION.
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