20% Memorial Day Sale

**bamacummins** · 05-29-2023, 18:11

Just bought my first TQ and UQ - figured 20% discount was as good as it gets. I decided for the money, this was best option.

**BuckeyeFan** · 05-29-2023, 18:42

I have 2 each of the ecom and they're great.

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**Crazytown3** · 05-29-2023, 20:55

Originally Posted by bamacummins

Just bought my first TQ and UQ - figured 20% discount was as good as it gets. I decided for the money, this was best option.

It really is about as good as it gets. You will not be disappointed with that purchase.

I happened to notice this current sale also happens to cover the Dyneema tarps.

If I didn't just blow my gear budget on a different sale, I would for sure be in for a camo Dyneema standard tarp with doors.

**bamacummins** · 05-30-2023, 06:07

I wish I knew if overstuff option was something I should have done. I emailed them this morning after sleeping on it. Ordered 10deg set, probably never out at anything below 20, but the price was the same if I had got the 20 with 1 oz overstuff. Of course they say the temp rating probably isn’t effective more about down movement.

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**Crazytown3** · 05-30-2023, 10:00

Originally Posted by bamacummins

I wish I knew if overstuff option was something I should have done. I emailed them this morning after sleeping on it. Ordered 10deg set, probably never out at anything below 20, but the price was the same if I had got the 20 with 1 oz overstuff. Of course they say the temp rating probably isn’t effective more about down movement.

I don't think overstuffing has any real effect on extra warmth, the baffle height and loft have more to do with that. As I've read from some of the quilt makers, too much overstuff will have a detrimental effect on loft and insulative power. I did get my 0F Uq and TQ with 1 ounce overfill, just thinking it would help mitigate down migration. All the rest of my quilts are standard fill.

Now that I think more about it, if you are trying to mitigate against down migration, overfill would probably be more effective in a higher temp rated quilt rather than lower temp rated. Meaning a 40F quilt would probably benefit from overfill more than a 0F quilt. I'm certainly no expert on the subject though.

**FLTurtle** · 05-30-2023, 10:18

Originally Posted by Crazytown3

I don't think overstuffing has any real effect on extra warmth, the baffle height and loft have more to do with that. As I've read from some of the quilt makers, too much overstuff will have a detrimental effect on loft and insulative power. I did get my 0F Uq and TQ with 1 ounce overfill, just thinking it would help mitigate down migration. All the rest of my quilts are standard fill.

Now that I think more about it, if you are trying to mitigate against down migration, overfill would probably be more effective in a higher temp rated quilt rather than lower temp rated. Meaning a 40F quilt would probably benefit from overfill more than a 0F quilt. I'm certainly no expert on the subject though.

In my mind, this seems right...lower rated = more down, less migration. Yeah, the baffles are bigger, but you still have a lot of down. Going from their specs for an Econ Phoenix: 40F to 0F...1.5" loft to 3.5" loft, 5.36 oz down to 13.28 oz. 1 oz overstuff for the 40F is almost 20% more down. For the 0F, it's only 7.6%.

https://hammockgear.com/content/Specs/EPhoenix.pdf

**Pavel** · 05-30-2023, 12:32

Originally Posted by Crazytown3

It really is about as good as it gets. You will not be disappointed with that purchase.

I happened to notice this current sale also happens to cover the Dyneema tarps.

If I didn't just blow my gear budget on a different sale, I would for sure be in for a camo Dyneema standard tarp with doors.

I put a dyneema tarp into the cart of Friday, but was disapointed that the discount did not work and then noticed a statement that the dyneema products are not part of the sale. When I read your post, I went back late last night, and sure enough the dyneema tarp WAS included. I had meanwhile blown my budget on a Warbonnet tarp and Yeti, unfortunately. I did the manly thing however - and bought their Camo 11 foot tarp with the optional pullouts. 20 percent off makes a significant difference. Once tax is included I bet it's more like 21.6 percent even, so I focus of the savings and happy times ahead - not that I'll be eating nothing but crackers all month.

**bamacummins** · 05-30-2023, 13:09

Well, I ended up changing my order to 20deg TQ and UQ, with 1 oz overfill, more for the migration issue, plus I don't plan to be out at 10 deg anymore. Been there, done that.

**Randonneur** · 05-30-2023, 18:57

Originally Posted by Pavel

I put a dyneema tarp into the cart of Friday, but was disapointed that the discount did not work and then noticed a statement that the dyneema products are not part of the sale. When I read your post, I went back late last night, and sure enough the dyneema tarp WAS included. I had meanwhile blown my budget on a Warbonnet tarp and Yeti, unfortunately. I did the manly thing however - and bought their Camo 11 foot tarp with the optional pullouts. 20 percent off makes a significant difference. Once tax is included I bet it's more like 21.6 percent even, so I focus of the savings and happy times ahead - not that I'll be eating nothing but crackers all month.

I wound up pulling the trigger on a 12' DCF tarp as well. Been wanting one for a long time and this seemed like the right time to do it.

**Crazytown3** · 05-31-2023, 11:56

Originally Posted by Pavel

I put a dyneema tarp into the cart of Friday, but was disapointed that the discount did not work and then noticed a statement that the dyneema products are not part of the sale. When I read your post, I went back late last night, and sure enough the dyneema tarp WAS included. I had meanwhile blown my budget on a Warbonnet tarp and Yeti, unfortunately. I did the manly thing however - and bought their Camo 11 foot tarp with the optional pullouts. 20 percent off makes a significant difference. Once tax is included I bet it's more like 21.6 percent even, so I focus of the savings and happy times ahead - not that I'll be eating nothing but crackers all month.

I did the same, put a DCF camo tarp in my cart, and sat thee and stared at it for a while. Then thought about the conversation I would have to have with my dear, long suffering wife. Ultimately she would understand, but it would screw up other plans. Out of the cart it went, but will happen for sure sometime in the future.