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    Orange Screws not holding...help

    The 12" orange screws I used for my Trekking Treez stand will not hold in the 5000-6000 foot mountains where I most camp in Balsam forests. The soil is layered deeply in decades of soft soil/pine needles. What options might work for me? Thanks...

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    all secure in sector 7 Shug's Avatar
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    I'd recommend boom stakes. See them at 5:48 in the video below.
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    Another option might be military antenna stakes, V shaped which is what I use. Also, try bringing extra cordage to tie off to natural features. My last camp with the treez made me realize that 90' was barely enough to tie off to natural features, so next time I'm taking 150' 7/64 amsteel to cover all bases.

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    I would second the boom stakes.

    I had a hell of a time getting the orange stakes to hold in the soil in my backyard with the Tensa Solo.

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    IMG_7366b.jpg

    I don't claim to solve your particular problem but here is my doubled up tensa4 pole experiment. The orange screw under the apex keeps the legs from sliding forward and the whole thing is held by a sort of self equalizing anchor to two orange screws. This would have been more effective if I had more yard space to run the anchors out but this setup held me for like 2 weeks with no problem.

    I also experimented with running the lines down to the orange screws and then out to one of the military V stakes too. I don't know how effective the redirection of force was but the orange screws stayed solid. Basically the military V was behind the orange screw a few feet as a secondary anchor.

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    Pine needles, pine trees.
    Problem solved..
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    Would ya'll say, "the longer the lines from pole to stake"' the better anchor hold?

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    I believe so, because if we imagine that the stakes are right next to the pole, they are pulled up, and if they are very far away, they are pulled along the same line as the ground.

    For my Treez, I'd like a boomstake-like setup with the military antenna V stakes, but I'm sure I'd have to fabricate something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crawldaddy View Post
    Would ya'll say, "the longer the lines from pole to stake"' the better anchor hold?
    I believe this to be demonstrably true, yes. But also there is something to the boomstake method where the aluminum bar moves the anchor point below ground that is worth replicating for other anchor types.

    Like mattnin said, I have a notion to fabricobble something for the V stakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crawldaddy View Post
    Would ya'll say, "the longer the lines from pole to stake"' the better anchor hold?
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