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    Adjusting an underquilt

    Ok, I'm not good at this. I'm not good at fussing with the thingies and bungies. I need some guidance.

    I live near Yellowstone and backpack there in the summer. Mostly I use a tent because the trees are either too little or too far apart. I bought a Hammockgear Wanderlust kit, and have taken it backpackibg a few times (3) in Yellowstone, when I was confident there would be trees suitable for hanging. I find it comfortable. I wanted to hang when car camping, too, but again, trees were an issue. I'd especially like to be able to use it car camping in Bighorn Canyon, because along with the tree problem, they have rattlesnakes. I saw info about the ENO Nomad Stand and Shelter, and thought that sounded like it would work for car camping! I'd have "trees" and with the shelter, I'd have privacy and a spot around the hammock to put my shoes and other things, without worrying about creepy crawlies! Yay! So I got it, and because I had read that it is set up for a 9 foot hammock, I just got an ENO double nest during the last sale. I had read somewhere that my Hammockgear underquilt would work with the double nest, so I just counted on that. I got to thinking about it, and thought that it would be an even nicer experience, while camping, if instead of using the ENO shelter, I got a family tent, and put up the stand and hammock inside that. While puttering to test that out, I attached the underquilt and couldn't find a way to shorten it, or tighten it, so it didn't just sag. So, can somebody help me figure out which cord I pull or thing I tighten to make my warm and wonderful Moroccan Blue Hammockgear underquilt hug my ENO double nest? Please?

    I've included pictures of the giant tent and the sagging underquilt. I know the tent isn't very good, but having spent my adult life using small, light tents, this is pretty cool. There's enough room to play basketball in here. Thanks. 20240706_075951.jpg20240706_073757.jpg

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    Looks like you need to shorten main suspension. Just tie a knot in it and try.
    I'll add this video I made that may give you some insight.
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    We've all been where you are, so you're in good company. Hammocks have a "fiddle-factor" unlike tents which can make them both fun and frustrating. Learn as you go, ask this group questions, and soon you'll have an elevated perspective. Enjoy the journey.

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    Hang under quilt under hammock.
    While leaving under quilt attached to hammock suspension.
    Pull under quilt out from under hammock to same side you are standing.
    Observe bottom edge of under quilt and bottom edge of hammock. Lowest middle bottom edges.

    Adjust under quilt suspension (both primary and secondary under quilt suspensions, until bottom
    edge of under quilt is six inches higher along their entire lengths than bottom edge of hammock.

    Then push-pull under quilt back up under hammock—into position for your sleeping.

    Now under quilt will fit great under your hammock.
    One other thing—observe short end channels of under quilt and see short shock cord that goes through short ends of hammock. Do Not over tighten short end shock cords on short ends of under quilt. If you tighten them too much, under quilt ends will form a tight horseshoe-hair pin shape. That would cause an air gap on both ends.

    After setting up according to these directions, one person lays in hammock while another person helps check for obvious air gaps between hammock and under quilt.

    Watch Shug’s video on these techniques. I didn’t know any of this until watching Shug’s videos.
    Thank you Shug.

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    Thank you for your help. I think, Shug has nailed the prime issue, which is just to tie a knot to shorten it. Thank you for the link to the video, and the detailed directions, Phantom Grappler. And Buckeye Fan, thank’s for the support… I believe the fiddle factor is why after I’ve tried lots of tents, I always go back to a freestanding one. I’ll go out and fiddle!

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    Also, a little lift to the underquilt might help too if shortening the underquilt suspension isn't enough. Attach a prusik knot to the hammock ridgeline and attach it to the underquilt suspension and slide this up and down the ridgeline to where you would like it. Quilt hooks do the same type of thing.

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    These might help, too: https://dutchwaregear.com/product/ridgeline-quilt-hook/

    When I got mine, there were a few burrs that ight have snagged on the bug net, so I took a Bic lighter and waved the flame over them (while holding with tweezers), and voila! - very smooth finish, no snags.

    They're handy, and besides, you can never have enough Dutch bling.

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    I’d also recommend that whatever knot you tie to shorten the suspension be slipped, so that you have a fighting chance of *un*tying it sometime. Knots in shock cord are a recipe for frustration :-). I also found that my HG Phoenix fit a little better when I added Arrowhead Equipment “Triangle Thingies” to the primary suspension, though I still use the stock secondary suspension.


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    Thank you JollyRoger, I had considered that, but was afraid that with my knot typing problems, I thought I might use a secondary piece of cord that I might be able to undo a little more easily. Honestly, that was something I loved about the Wanderlust at up, I didn't need to know a single knot. I made some mini whoopies, and that might work too capture the end and give me something to use to hook it with. I think I can! Maybe.

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    Just make sure you leave some flex in the UQ suspension, if you’re putting non-stretchy cord in the mix. There’s a lot to be said for fiddling until it works; I’ve learned a lot about how my various quilts work that way.


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