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    Any reviews of the mini Line Locks in the store?

    I'm just getting into this, and I honestly don't understand the desire to use a ton of fancy knots and such. Maybe it's just the fun of learning a new way of doing things without hardware? Or saving some grams in weight?

    I have 100' of 7/64" Amsteel Blue on the way.

    The Mini Line Locks in the HF store look promising. I'm not sure if an ounce is worth the time and trouble these could save. Thanks for the input.

    Also, can I use hardware like this to tie hammock supports, or are they just for guylines?

    Thanks
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    I wouldn't use those for hammock suspensions. Most folks are not even comfortable using the super big figure 9's for their suspension. You might be able to get away with holding a 3mm amsteel blue or something like that but I wouldn't trust the ability to contain the forces exerted on the ropes. Weightwise the ropes would hold it but I would not trust the widgets.

    I use a ring buckle system. There are any number of alternatives to the knots. Search the suspension forum and you'll more material than you can read in one sitting.
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    Ive been using these for over a year with 1.5mm dyneema core.

    IMO, well worth the money and weight.

    They take a lot of hassle out of tensioning the tarp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turnerminator View Post
    They take a lot of hassle out of tensioning the tarp.
    I tried them for tarps and especially on the ridgeline I got very tired of them very quickly. There is always a loop in the line. I tend to wrap things around supports rather than slip them over. When I did use them to go to the stakes the line was never adjustable to the degree that I liked it. Some folks really like them for tarps and guy lines. I prefer the figure 9's but that just me.
    I may be slow... But I sure am gimpy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaynBoom View Post
    I'm just getting into this, and I honestly don't understand the desire to use a ton of fancy knots and such. Maybe it's just the fun of learning a new way of doing things without hardware? Or saving some grams in weight?

    I have 100' of 7/64" Amsteel Blue on the way.

    The Mini Line Locks in the HF store look promising. I'm not sure if an ounce is worth the time and trouble these could save. Thanks for the input.

    Also, can I use hardware like this to tie hammock supports, or are they just for guylines?

    Thanks
    Danger Will Robinson! Definitely not for hammocks suspension. Decent product for tarp guylines but the 7/64 amsteel is overkill for that application.
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    I bought a bunch used them once and decided they were very effective but not quite what I was looking for. I ended up winning STL's (self tensioning lines for tarp) from JRB at the Spring MAHA and man those things are awesome. I know buying the STL's are a bit more expensive then the cord locks but makeing them your self is very easy espcially if you already have the cord, they are well worth it. If I would of not of won the STL's I would still probally be useing the cord locks. So to answer your question as Knotty said DANGER do not use them in a suspension system but they are effective useing them to tension a tarp ridgeline or guy lines. IMHO
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    Thanks for the feedback. I'm reading a bunch, and trying to limit questions that have been answered elswhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramblinrev View Post
    I prefer the figure 9's but that just me.
    I do too, big time. My figure 9's are permanently attached to my MSR ground hog stakes, and the guylines stay attached to the tarp - attaching the guylines is a simple matter of pushing the stake in, grabbing the line, and pulling it tight in the figure 9. Very quick and simple.

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    I use the mini line locs for tarp pull outs with Speer No-Tangle. That works fine, but I wouldn't use any line smaller than that. On my SpinnUL MacCat tarp, I don't have any other tension adjustment...not really needed since SpinnUL doesn't stretch.

    I would review them as OK, but not significantly better than other tarp guyline options...including just a plain slipped half hitch or other variants. The linelocs are lighter than Figure 9s, but none of the choices are really heavy.

    I'm "thinking" of an experiment with Ladder Line Locs, but the only available size of those is bigger than optimal for Speer No-Tangle or equivalent size line.
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    Thumbs up use them and like them

    Used on tarp only. Spinn tarp, no need for stls. I attach them in a different manner than noted on the guidelines included with the 1st set I purchased. Allows for using the full length of the guylines down to a very short minimal length. Have had no failure or jamming issues yet. Quick and easy to set up, adjust and take down the tarp even under freezing sleet conditions. Have held up to winds gusting +30mph.
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