Forum moderators have recently brought to my attention the issue of conversation straying from hammocks. Not hammock accessories, or gear used by hammock campers, or basic market research gleaning input directly from the end consumers. I request that every thread not directly related to a hammock be closed or moved to non-hammock related forums in the members area. Hot water bottles are not hammocks, nor are foam pads or tarps. If you want to talk about things like that, become a donating member and talk about it in the hot water bottle forum of foam pad forum or tarp forum in the members only area.