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    Quote Originally Posted by lazy river road View Post
    Thanks for the Ideahs, 8g toggles are better then 3.5 lost toggles IMHO
    I'll have to weight my mini carabiners again. I bought some micro carabiners and I think they're 3.2g. They are small!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dejoha View Post
    I'll have to weight my mini carabiners again. I bought some micro carabiners and I think they're 3.2g. They are small!
    Dag-gone-it, I got to stay off this sit, you guys gotta stop showing me new stuff to buy,
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    Thanks a lot for the pics, that really helps and they were very clear. This site is so full of ideas and opinions, I love it.

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    Ha. Dejoha - I knew I had seen that picture before. Fantastic idea. I've been doing this for a bit now and when a thread popped up regarding this, I had a little bit of a time convincing people that it actually held.
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    A small piece of aluminum tubing with a tether works too.
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    That is a slick setup!

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    I did this mod today as well ...... Brilliant!

    I love the biners as toggles ....
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    I was under the impression that you needed a full-sized carabiner to handle the forces pulling on it while being used as a toggle.

    So these micro-biners are strong enough to use for someone under 200 lbs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by angrysparrow View Post
    It's part of the knot, to make it untie easily and quickly. Many use a marlinspike hitch, and the toggle is the 'spike'.

    This will link you to a video of the hitch being tied.
    ya it does thanks for posting

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    Quote Originally Posted by xeren View Post
    I was under the impression that you needed a full-sized carabiner to handle the forces pulling on it while being used as a toggle.

    So these micro-biners are strong enough to use for someone under 200 lbs?
    I'm 250 and have no problem ....

    The beauty of the physics behind the toggle is that, when used properly, the force is transferred from the whoopie, strap, rope, etc. To the tree hugger. The toggle doesn't carry load per se, at least not much of a load as compared to the tension in the suspension lines.

    Even so, when used as a toggle the mini biner is being loaded in shear .. That is to say that the forces applied to the toggle would try to shear it in two, not pull it in two. The mini biner would have to bend to fail. In this case, the mini biner is a heck of a lot stronger loaded in shear than in tension.
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