I have taken the jump but I have questions

[Lorethian]

Thanks for all the help guys, not only up to this point but in the future. I have a question about the Sportsmans Guide Tarp. Will I need to Seam Seal it?

[Shadowmoss]

I have the HH hex poly. I like it. Check the Hang-out photo's in the gallery, mine is the one with the camp chair under it .

I plan on making one out of silnylon, similar to the hex, same size, but with wings on it like the new Speer one.

[gunn parker]

Hi
No need to seal, mine works just fine in the rain, on my last trip and it rained quite hard, not bucketing down but pretty hard, and I was as dry as you could like.
Gunn

[FanaticFringer]

You dont have to seam seal it.

[Cannibal]

Lots of rain in the past week and I've had the sportsman's guide tarp set-up over a hammock the whole time. No seam seal; zero leakage.

[Lorethian]

Thanks guys, I ordered one of them today. Ill let you know how it works.

[daibutsu]

I too, have recently "taken the jump," into hammock camping vs. conventional ultralight weight back packing. Did just two weekends ago use HH Ultralight A-sym for first time, all in unsupported three day canoe trip. Great sleep, good product, normally I'd be so elated that I'd put screw-eyes in my wall to hang some more... but, some othe newbies should be aware of a few items. The Hex upgrade is not adaptable to the existant clips on the hammock, proper. The hex fly is independent and, I believe, requires stronger line to support it (more weight and bulk.) If an unaware newbie, such as myself, tries to incorporate the new hex fly it will likely cause the little hooks that hold the original fly to fail. This upgrade is not at all ultralight, that's ok, just be aware..

HH was pretty magnaminous with repalcement tho. a bit sarcastic in my concerns; if anyone wants me to forward it let me know.

The issue that has me most bothered, is the fact that it would be safe to assume that we all need and especially appreciate the outdoors, etc... The HH line apparently is made in China. I guess we can't escape that in today's modern world, but that just rubs me the wrong way. As an aside it would be excellent if 'manufacturers' would have to disclose what percentage of their products are made in China, like calories in food..Maybe we'd go to comperable products really made in the US or even Canada..

Rick

[daibutsu]

I too, have recently "taken the jump," into hammock camping vs. conventional ultralightweight back packing. Did just two weekends ago use HH Ultralight A-sym for first time, all in unsupported three day canoe trip. Great sleep, good product, normally I'd be so elated that I'd put screw-eyes in my wall to hang some more... but, other newbies should be aware of a few items. The Hex upgrade is not adaptable to the existant clips on the hammock, proper. The hex fly is independent and, I believe, requires stronger line to support it (more weight and bulk.) If an unaware newbie, such as myself, tries to incorporate the new hex fly it will likely cause the little hooks that hold the original fly to fail. This upgrade is not at all ultralight, that's ok, just be aware..

HH was pretty magnaminous with repalcement tho. a bit sarcastic in my concerns; if anyone wants me to forward it let me know.

The issue that has me most bothered, is the fact that it would be safe to assume that we all need and especially appreciate the outdoors, etc... The HH line apparently is made in China. I guess we can't escape that in today's modern world, but that just rubs me the wrong way. As an aside it would be excellent if 'manufacturers' would have to disclose what percentage of their products are made in China, like calories in food..Maybe we'd go to comperable products really made in the US or even Canada..

Rick

[Cannibal]

Welcome to the forum daibutsu.

I've not had the opportunity to play with the hex upgrade, but as a general rule most HH users don't use the clips to tie the tarp directly to the hammock. You can actually get the tarp to maintain its pitch regardless of if you are in the hammock or not that way.

I like "magnanimous"; don't get to use that one often. Many of us have experienced Tom's brush-off at various meetings. I don't care about him, but I do like his hammocks...mostly.

Too late to fix the global economy thing . Gonna have to find a new path.

[daibutsu]

Cannibal,

You're right about the impossibility of fixing the global economy, but I'm still able to feel good/ok about how I, personally, spend my energy, time, and money. For fear of being a newbie too philosophical, the common denominator to our lifestyle (environmental) degradation is use of fossil fuels and Chinese made goods.