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    BMBH and a Maccat Deluxe

    anyone using a BMBH with a Maccat Deluxe?


    i just got the hammock and i'm playing around with my setup...so far i really like the bmbh....just can't seem to get my Deluxe to wanna work with it
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    On the BMBH you want to put the tarp over the hammock. It attaches to the trees by the ridgeline and then you pull the side tie out and stake them to the ground.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    On the BMBH you want to put the tarp over the hammock. It attaches to the trees by the ridgeline and then you pull the side tie out and stake them to the ground.
    OOOOOoooooo....thats how it's done
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    That Dutch, he's a smart guy. A smart a..., never mind.

    I can just get bridge hammocks under a MacCat Deluxe, including
    (I'm pretty sure) a BMBH. When you pitch the tarp leave very little
    room between it and the hammock, and center things so that the spreader bars in this configuration are covered on the sides by the tarp (that's why you ride high). When you get into the hammock it will drop and you'll be fine.

    That's for hanging when you're concerned about side-blown rain. Pitching the tarp very wide (e.g. using your hiking poles) a little above the hammock gives
    you coverage for the hanging you do in mostly clement weather.
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    Thanks Grizz.......

    i'm thinking of getting a pole mod done by ZQ....to help open up the tarp more...

    but so far i really like the hammock...wish i would have tried one years ago
    do you know off hand how much each ring weighs?
    i'm working on the best way to do your mod to the bmbh...just trying to get an idea of weights
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    NM...i just did the math...looks like about .6oz each.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by greenlespaul View Post
    Thanks Grizz.......

    i'm thinking of getting a pole mod done by ZQ....to help open up the tarp more...

    but so far i really like the hammock...wish i would have tried one years ago
    do you know off hand how much each ring weighs?
    i'm working on the best way to do your mod to the bmbh...just trying to get an idea of weights
    Working with ZQ on the same this, although using a HH big hex silnylon tarp.

    I think I had the hammock too high (meaning up near the tarp) because when I sat in the hammock and it tipped as I got in the ends of the spreader bars kept rubbing up against the tarp. This should prove that I had the tarp OVER the hammock, not UNDER as I may have originally conceived ;-)

    We had HUGE downpours so I had the tarp pitched as steep as I could and everytime I moved while laying in the BMBH the bar ends would still rub against the tarp. Nerve racking!!

    This done with a center pole mod from ZQ even . . .

    ZQ and I talked about a double pole mod with a tarp pole at either end to keep the tarp ends out away from the spreader bars.

    Any other thoughts/suggestions welcome . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Javaman View Post
    Working with ZQ on the same this, although using a HH big hex silnylon tarp.

    I think I had the hammock too high (meaning up near the tarp) because when I sat in the hammock and it tipped as I got in the ends of the spreader bars kept rubbing up against the tarp. This should prove that I had the tarp OVER the hammock, not UNDER as I may have originally conceived ;-)

    We had HUGE downpours so I had the tarp pitched as steep as I could and everytime I moved while laying in the BMBH the bar ends would still rub against the tarp. Nerve racking!!

    This done with a center pole mod from ZQ even . . .

    ZQ and I talked about a double pole mod with a tarp pole at either end to keep the tarp ends out away from the spreader bars.

    Any other thoughts/suggestions welcome . . .


    thats kind of what i was thinking...i hate to do it cause it adds weight....but i figure i can get carbon fiber poles and it won't be so bad....

    but i was going to do mine alot like dutch has his...they are not all the way down to the corner of the tarp...but only half way down...so you don't need long poles
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    Quote Originally Posted by Javaman View Post
    Working with ZQ on the same this, although using a HH big hex silnylon tarp.

    I think I had the hammock too high (meaning up near the tarp) because when I sat in the hammock and it tipped as I got in the ends of the spreader bars kept rubbing up against the tarp. This should prove that I had the tarp OVER the hammock, not UNDER as I may have originally conceived ;-)

    We had HUGE downpours so I had the tarp pitched as steep as I could and everytime I moved while laying in the BMBH the bar ends would still rub against the tarp. Nerve racking!!

    This done with a center pole mod from ZQ even . . .

    ZQ and I talked about a double pole mod with a tarp pole at either end to keep the tarp ends out away from the spreader bars.

    Any other thoughts/suggestions welcome . . .
    Two points.

    The center pole mod works against you in a bridge....It is great for gathered end hammocks, where more room in the center and less on the corners is good.... But it is exactly opposite of more room on the corners need for bridge spreader bars.

    Rectangular tarps or the JRB 11x10 Cat Tarp, with multiple edge tie outs, work much better than hex patterns on bridge designs.

    Pan

    PS added...If you want to make the hex work try poles at the corner, though that will double your pole weight...

    FWIW, addiing center poles to hexes probably makes them heavier than the rectangular tarps.
    Ounces to Grams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter_pan View Post
    Two points.

    The center pole mod works against you in a bridge....It is great for gathered end hammocks, where more room in the center and less on the corners is good.... But it is exactly opposite of more room on the corners need for bridge spreader bars.

    Rectangular tarps or the JRB 11x10 Cat Tarp, with multiple edge tie outs, work much better than hex patterns on bridge designs.

    Pan

    PS added...If you want to make the hex work try poles at the corner, though that will double your pole weight...

    FWIW, addiing center poles to hexes probably makes them heavier than the rectangular tarps.
    hiya Pan, hope you're staying cool and comfortable down there in Tidewater <grin>.

    Being mathematical and all quanty, I'd rephrase your point here. A pole mod in the center pushes the tarp out in the middle. Where you want more spread on for a bridge hammock is at the tarp ends. I would say a pole mod doesn't "work against you" so much as it "doesn't give you more width near the spreader bars". To "work against you" the center pole would close the tarp ends in more, and I'm not seeing that.

    Your point on weight is on the mark though. But a smaller tarp with ends spread by lightweight poles will be less bulky than a full 10x11 tarp. In my calculus of pack loading, volume used is as much a factor as weight.

    but then I'm young and spry still

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