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    The bottom line is whatever works for you. Pick up a pair and use them. Never hurts to have extra suspension plus its always better to try things out for yourself.

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    Oh - there is a downside that was not mentioned. If you are using WS made from the blue colored amsteel be prepared to suffer from SHS - Smurf Hand Syndrome. The staining lessens over time and washes off with a good scrubbing but it is a pain. The other colors I have used don't stain as bad as blue.

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    I had a WS sort of fail on my Smokies trip. The adjustable loop has a small plastic bead to keep the loop from sliding in on itself. Somehow that bead broke off, and when I picked up that end of the hammock by the wrong part of the sling, the loop slid all the way closed and I couldn't get it back out. I just used that sling like a normal piece of cord with the figure-8 lash and it worked fine.

    I asked Opie if there was an easy way to fix this and he immediately offered to send me a new one if I couldn't get it back out. I tried to get it out but I couldn't do it w/o damaging the cord, so he sent one out quickly. Great customer service!

    I don't think this will be a common issue at all with WS, though. Not something I'd base a decision on to pass up a set.
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    [QUOTE=Just Jeff;286649]I had a WS sort of fail on my Smokies trip. The adjustable loop has a small plastic bead to keep the loop from sliding in on itself. Somehow that bead broke off, and when I picked up that end of the hammock by the wrong part of the sling, the loop slid all the way closed and I couldn't get it back out. I just used that sling like a normal piece of cord with the figure-8 lash and it worked fine.

    Hey thanks alot Jeff, thats just the kind of feedback I was looking for.
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    Pretty much all off the failures I have read about have all been operator error. There is a slight learning curve on a WS. I dont see that as a down side just part of learning to use the gear. After a couple of uses you will be a pro at using them. Mine are 2mm dynaglide and go as short as 18in. As cheap as they are if you dont like them you are not out much. I agree with Trout. They are not for everyone. No they are not the simplest suspension to use but they really dont take much brain power to use.
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    And the Lord knows Otter that you need to preserve all of the brain power that you can muster. LOFLMAO

    Besides, "Whoopie is just fun to say."
    So sayeth the SHUG-man.

    We now return you to your regularly shceduled thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kthompson View Post
    Amsteel seems particularly easy to snag on abrasive surfaces. I do wonder about its useful life span.
    I've been using mine for over a year, true, it's been out on the deck but still every night I'm hangin' on it and they've NEVER failed me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Just Jeff View Post
    I had a WS sort of fail on my Smokies trip. The adjustable loop has a small plastic bead to keep the loop from sliding in on itself. Somehow that bead broke off, and when I picked up that end of the hammock by the wrong part of the sling, the loop slid all the way closed and I couldn't get it back out. I just used that sling like a normal piece of cord with the figure-8 lash and it worked fine.

    I asked Opie if there was an easy way to fix this and he immediately offered to send me a new one if I couldn't get it back out. I tried to get it out but I couldn't do it w/o damaging the cord, so he sent one out quickly. Great customer service!

    I don't think this will be a common issue at all with WS, though. Not something I'd base a decision on to pass up a set.
    One thing I've learned Jeff. I had one that did the same thing on one of my hammocks, I didn't have a bead on it though, and I took some time and was able to pull it back out. Now I simply tie the end of the WS to the adjustable loop, that way if it happens again the knot will stop it from swallowing the loop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Jeff View Post
    I had a WS sort of fail on my Smokies trip. The adjustable loop has a small plastic bead to keep the loop from sliding in on itself. Somehow that bead broke off, and when I picked up that end of the hammock by the wrong part of the sling, the loop slid all the way closed and I couldn't get it back out. I just used that sling like a normal piece of cord with the figure-8 lash and it worked fine.

    I asked Opie if there was an easy way to fix this and he immediately offered to send me a new one if I couldn't get it back out. I tried to get it out but I couldn't do it w/o damaging the cord, so he sent one out quickly. Great customer service!

    I don't think this will be a common issue at all with WS, though. Not something I'd base a decision on to pass up a set.
    Y'all may remember that I (the village idiot) discovered this on my FIRST attempted use of my whoopies in the field. They pulled in on themselves as I pulled the hammock out of the pack. I had nothing (beads whatever) on there to prevent it, and did not even know it needed preventing. But no problems since then, now that I know it can happen. Lot's of ways to prevent it.

    BTW, once back home I got both of mine pulled back out and still use that same set, but it was one major PITA let me tell 'Ya!
    For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us....that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now.
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    That's a great idea, Burrito. If another bead pops off (not expected) then I'll do that to keep it working in the field.
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