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    Sometimes, a little mass is actually good!

    I have set up my HH with buckles & Chain Links from AHE with polypro straps. I sewed a loop in the far end of the straps for carabiners. During a short test hang yesterday I chose two trees - each about 30" in diameter for my anchors.

    Since I was unable to reach around the trees, I simply used the 'biner as a weight to fling the strap around the trunk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jsaults View Post
    I have set up my HH with buckles & Chain Links from AHE with polypro straps. I sewed a loop in the far end of the straps for carabiners. During a short test hang yesterday I chose two trees - each about 30" in diameter for my anchors.

    Since I was unable to reach around the trees, I simply used the 'biner as a weight to fling the strap around the trunk.

    Q.E.D.

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    Thats a good point, thanks Jim
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    Be careful when using Carabiners, if you simply clip into a webbing eye and around the tree and back onto the webbing you are cross loading the spine on the crab. They are not designed to be loaded this way only directly down the spine.

    Hope this makes sense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by deer man View Post
    Be careful when using Carabiners, if you simply clip into a webbing eye and around the tree and back onto the webbing you are cross loading the spine on the crab. They are not designed to be loaded this way only directly down the spine.

    Hope this makes sense?
    Actually, can you clarify this some more? My thought was that carabiners would decrease the load on the sewn loop as the load is parallel to the sewing and less likely to rip out, but it sounds like you're saying that the other end, where it goes through the biner, is being improperly loaded because it's being pulled across at an angle. How is that any worse than tying a spike or knot into the webbing? Am I missing something?

    Edit: Wait... Are you saying that you're improperly loading the biner?

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    Yes you are loading the crab in the wrong axis, the webbing would be fine.

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    If you are using a climbing rated carabiner it is a fairly mute point unless you weigh well over a thousand pounds. The load forces of a hammock are far below the load foces of a falling climber.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deer man View Post
    Yes you are loading the crab in the wrong axis, the webbing would be fine.
    Even if you are loading the carabiner totally along the wrong axis, which seems unlikely, I would suspect that most climbing carabiners are rated far in excess of the forces placed on them in a hammock situation.

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    Yah what Mark said
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    I do what you describe: thread the strap through the sewn loop. Climbing carabiners are easier and convenient, but as a gram weenie, I like saving the weight. I do use micro carabiners as clip-in toggles on the other loop end when attaching my Whoopie Slings. This is probably hypocritical coming from a self-proclaimed gram weenie, but it keeps things "easy and convenient."

    Hang-your-own-hang, as is said. Find a system that works for you.

    For better or worse, that is the fate of hammock camping: infinite configurations.

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