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    if there are leaks it might mean you mixed too thin. in which case you might need another coating.

    the 1 yard piece i did turned out as waterproof as sil and right at the same weight. just thinned the mix the right amount, soaked the fabric in it till it was totally soaked (not long) and then wiped off all the excess and hung to dry.

    just play around with small batches and pieces of fabric to get the ratio of thinner to sil correct, then do a tarp. i would use a scale to weigh your finished samples to see how much sil you added. i used a piece that was 1 sq yd so it would be easy to tell. test under the shower head to see if water beads through badly. you can compare it to a piece of regular sil if you want.

    for the final project, i would make the tarp out of breathable fabric, set it up, stretch it really tight and rub the mix on with a sponge and work it in real good on both sides, and then wipe it off really good. then just take it down when it's dry.

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    Would this method of making the tarp out of the breathable material first, then coating it with the sil mean that you could effectively combine the seam sealing of the ridgeline into the coating of the tarp? It seems to me this would give a nice clean look.

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    I would think so. Being that you're making it water proof AFTER the fact.
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    This is awesome! What ratios are you guys who have had good results using?
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    Has anyone tried using a squeegee when coating the fabric. I have one of these squeegees I got from Walmart.

    I would think a squeegee would serve 3 purposes:

    1. It would force the silicone into the fabric, saturating the fabric better than just soaking.

    2.A more even coating of silicone on the fabric.

    3. Remove excess silicone, reducing the overall weight.

    Of course this is all just speculation and conjecture and would have to be tested.
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    Seems like there should be a way to rig a large roller press using some pvc.
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    HC4U, are you talking about using the squeegee to apply the coating or just to wipe it off or both? I wonder if WarbonettGuy had a nice smooth finish with the sponge?

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    If anyone comes up with the proper (easily repeatable, chemically stable) formula, could we get someone to mix up some jars of it to ship to HF members? That would be a great community service.

    I'm not into mixing up stuff myself, but I'd certainly pitch in for something that really works...

    Would a paint roller work?


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    If we can figure up correct ratios, I have some connections at my local Sherwin Williams and I think I can get a discount on the stuff (silicone caulk, thinners, etc), and I know I can get it shaken up. The only thing is that you can't use xylene, because you can't shake that (it'll explode). Otherwise, make sure it is something that can be put in a shaker. Just call your local Sherwin Williams or ask me and I can ask them. Don't know if this will help anyone, but if it will, let me know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Narwhalin View Post
    HC4U, are you talking about using the squeegee to apply the coating or just to wipe it off or both? I wonder if WarbonettGuy had a nice smooth finish with the sponge?

    I kinda see soaking the fabric in a silicone solution, like in bucket or similar, then removing the fabric, laying it out flat, and then running the squeegee over the fabric.
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