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    I'm a huge fan of a design that allows for no seams, no seams to sew, no seams to seal, well at least all the seams can be hidden under grosgrain at the edges , ... I may need to go get some 2" grosgrain... seriously I appreciate eliminating a source of leaks or separation K.I.S.S.

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    Looks like a Backwoods Daydreamer Fair Weather Friend Tarp.

    http://www.backwoodsdaydreamer.com/tarps.htm

    I just finished one similar to that last night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1022 View Post
    I'm a huge fan of a design that allows for no seams, no seams to sew, no seams to seal, well at least all the seams can be hidden under grosgrain at the edges , ... I may need to go get some 2" grosgrain... seriously I appreciate eliminating a source of leaks or separation K.I.S.S.
    I don't hem the edges, only 1" grossgrain. The only seams are at the 4 reinforcement patches and I didn't seal them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nacra533 View Post
    I don't hem the edges, only 1" grossgrain.
    Why not hem the edges? Grosgrain contributes about 2 oz, which is a significant portion of the total for a tarp that will weigh only 8 oz.
    "We must, indeed, all hang together or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately." - Ben Franklin
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    How manyt yards of Silylon

    So this design requires 3.6 yards of silnylon to make (round up to 4 because stuff happens, and most places make you order in whole yard increments)

    This is based on the 11' (132") diagonal ridgeline, and the 62" wide material. If you treat those as the sides of a right triangle and solve for the missing side, it should be the length of uncut silnylon required 116.5 " (3.24 yards)


    I'd really love to see one pitched tight, to know if the "slightly loose rigeline" would bother me at all... another benifit of having no rigeline-seam
    ( beyond ease of construction and seam sealing) is the weight...


    Quote Originally Posted by heyyou View Post
    PSmurf,
    I believe he measured a 11' diagonal and marked its midpoint on the 62 inch material, then he measured an 87" diagonal going the other way that was also centered on the first midpoint. That left a wedge at each end of the 62" fabric that needed to be removed to make the parallelogram from the original rectangle.

    Just my guess. I'm open to correction.

    Edited to add that Mac said it better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacEntyre View Post
    Why not hem the edges? Grosgrain contributes about 2 oz, which is a significant portion of the total for a tarp that will weigh only 8 oz.
    Laziness. I can bind a tarp VERY quickly with a binder attachment. The binder attachment works much more consistently than my hemmer attachment with less fuss. Also, I buy grossgrain by the pound and have LOTS of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1022 View Post
    I'd really love to see one pitched tight, to know if the "slightly loose rigeline" would bother me at all... another benifit of having no rigeline-seam
    ( beyond ease of construction and seam sealing) is the weight...
    If you're a drum tight pitch kind of person, the ridgeline will likely bother you.

    Due to the bias and slight cat cut, the sides remain tight regardless of what the ridgeline does.

    img 281 and 282 are tarp below ridgeline
    img 285 is tarp above ridgeline

    Vid - tarp above ridgeline
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMlBp0FzKDo

    Vid-tarp below ridgeline
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIJdJQ8Pt2A

    Although tarp above the ridgeline looks better just sitting there, there is not much difference in the tightness of the tarp along the RL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PapaSmurf View Post
    I tried 2 of these this past weekend. I'll try to get photos tonight.
    OK, well I posted the above on 8-30 and tonight ended up being 13 days later.
    Here's photos of the 2 tarps I made using this design.

    First Tarp
    Fabric: Urethane Coated Ripstop Nylon
    Color: Woodland Camo
    Weight: 15.7 oz.
    Size: 145" ridgeline x 88" wide
    No ridgeline seam, cut from single piece of fabric
    Construction: Not cat cut, rolled edges, reinforcing patches on all 4 corners
    Tie-outs: Grossgrain loops on ridgeline, Lineloc 3 adjusters on sides



    Second Tarp
    Fabric: Urethane Coated Ripstop Polyester
    Color: Digital Camo
    Weight: 11.6 oz.
    Size: 115" ridgeline x 84" wide
    Construction: All sides cat cut, ridgeline cat cut, edged with 7/8" Black Grossgrain ribbon
    Tie-outs: Grossgrain loops on ridgeline, Lineloc 3 adjusters on sides

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    Those are some nice looking tarps. Did the polyester one flop less than the nylon one?

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    They were pretty close to the same, but I think I could've got the nylon tarp a little tighter if it wasn't about the same length as my hammock stand. I couldn't stretch it out and shoot the photo at the same time.

    I'm happy with them & hope to take them both out on a Boy Scout campout later this month.

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