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    WBBB DL and Pads

    Anyone using a pad with their double layer BB? I'm going to have to go pad style until I can get my crowsnest and I'm wondering who's had success with what pads. My Prolite 4 is horribly unruly and annoying in my ENO, I know, and my Z-lite pad is just unusable! Does the double layer really help it slide around less? Also, what's the best pad for the job do you think?

    I picked up a Walmart bluepad today with the intentions of cutting it in half to make a "wide 'n short" pad. I figured some $5 trial and error couldn't hurt...

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    Not a Blackbird owner (yet ), but thought I'd comment since my Claytor has a double layer too.

    I have a Therm-a-rest Prolite as well, and it's completely useless (or at least VERY annoying). It kinda keeps me warm, but it tends to fold up under me and creates "pressure points" - not very comfortable!
    Finding the right amount of inflation might do the trick.... to much air and I get another problem (same as with the bluepad below) and too little air will cause the pad to fold up.

    When using a bluepad type it tends to skate off at it's own will, sticking out of the hammock, leaving me uninsulated and cold. Haven't quite figured out how keep it in place, as I tend to move around while sleeping.

    Can't wait for my UQ to arrive!

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    Hey Cal,
    I've got a TR Neoair that I just used on a 2 day trip in the mountains of NC. Its covering is stickier than my old TR Ultralight pad, so it doesn't slip around. It's a 3/4 length which is easier to manage in a hammock than full length. It has a built in heat reflector, but that was no match for the upper 40's I encountered. Had to make a trip to town to get a windshield reflector (the silvery bubblewrap kind) to keep my bum warm. The DL really helped keep the 2 items in place, which proved to be a tricky business in my old HHULBA. The DL is handy for using your old ground gear until you save your pennies for an underquilt!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWild View Post
    Not a Blackbird owner (yet ), but thought I'd comment since my Claytor has a double layer too.

    I have a Therm-a-rest Prolite as well..<snip>.. When using a bluepad type it tends to skate off at it's own will, sticking out of the hammock, leaving me uninsulated and cold. Haven't quite figured out how keep it in place....
    /Wild
    I'd like to ask a clarifying question: are you putting the Thermarest or blue pad BETWEEN the two layers of Claytor? If you do, that should prevent the pad's sliding. That's the intent of the second layer, to keep the pad in place....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghandrick View Post
    I'd like to ask a clarifying question: are you putting the Thermarest or blue pad BETWEEN the two layers of Claytor? If you do, that should prevent the pad's sliding. That's the intent of the second layer, to keep the pad in place....
    Oh yes it's between the two layers
    In my experience, it's not enough to keep the pad from moving. It might be due to the fact that I use smaller pads?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWild View Post
    Oh yes it's between the two layers
    In my experience, it's not enough to keep the pad from moving. It might be due to the fact that I use smaller pads?!

    /Wild
    Are you using a sleeping bag? I have a mummy shaped self inflating pad that I actually put in my sleeping bag,. This way I sleeping on the pad inside the bag so no matter how I squirm the pad and bag go with me. I still use a 1/8 pad outside of the bad for the shoulders.

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    It just takes experimenting to get the right pad position and how to get in to the hammock. I lay diagonally and put the pad the same way, and I find this out by getting in and out and in and out of the hammock. I'm still learning too. Every time I hang the hammock it goes up different, I get comfortable very easily, cold spots can be leviated by tucking one of my poncho liners around that area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walking Dead View Post
    Are you using a sleeping bag? I have a mummy shaped self inflating pad that I actually put in my sleeping bag,. This way I sleeping on the pad inside the bag so no matter how I squirm the pad and bag go with me. I still use a 1/8 pad outside of the bad for the shoulders.
    Great tip! I started out using my synthetic sleeping bag, but is was to heavy and bulky so I switched to a fleece blanket in stead.

    Quote Originally Posted by ghandrick View Post
    And I apologize for asking the obvious question, but sometimes ya just need to ask them. I wasn't trying to imply anything!
    No need to apologize at all... It'll take more to annoy me, than perfectly good questions

    I've heard that even the best makes mistakes, so I'm still waiting to screw up

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWild View Post
    Oh yes it's between the two layers
    In my experience, it's not enough to keep the pad from moving. It might be due to the fact that I use smaller pads?!

    /Wild
    And I apologize for asking the obvious question, but sometimes ya just need to ask them. I wasn't trying to imply anything!

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