Leave my meds out of this ......LOLOriginally Posted by Hawk-eye
nawh ... that's just your back meds!
Leave my meds out of this ......LOLnawh ... that's just your back meds!
It puts the Underquilt on it's hammock ... It does this whenever it gets cold
ROFL on that one Hawkeye....nawh ... that's just your back meds!
Whoa Whoa, easy now fellow, there is no need to be spoutin crazy talk!
To stay on topic....The Dutch Clips did not fail. You have simply found a secret, hidden feature. When we figure out this new design feature it will......once again....revolutionize hammock suspension as we know it. I say the OP is lucky to be the first to discover the new Dutch Clip Transformer.
I need sleep now
~SC
Owner/Founder at Hammockgear.com - Hammock Camping Outfitters
Home of the Burrow, the Incubator, and the Phoenix
Please forgive my horrible graphics skills. I am just trying to get an idea across. This illustration shows (poorly) the good and bad way to attach the dutch clip.
I have hung both ways, but the method that keeps the line the straightest has the least amount of stress on the DC.
I ride a recumbent.
I like to HAM it up on the CW.
I use Linux.
I play go.
Of course I sleep in a hammock!
Rug.
Hang On!
That wasn't a failure..
You recieved the "new improved DC with auto eject" by mistake.Those were not to be revealed yet. Hawkeye needs to do the video
jeez, now you ruined everything.
Okay, I see the issue of force, friction and physics, blah blah blah. Wrap your strap twice (where applicable) around the tree and the forces will be alot less. I've single wrapped and not noticed any sign of fatigue of stress (other than my daily life)
I'm 330(ish), and my dutchies are holding strong.
Like you said, 'probably a bad one'.
Sorry to hear.
on a seperate note..
We were pulling a wall over once at work and POOINGG...well thats another story.
Ambulo tua ambulo.
Thanks, Rug. That makes it clearer for me.
Glad no one was hurt. I feel bad for Dutch. The last thing in the world he wants to hear about is Sudden Dutch Clip Release Syndrome.
The aluminum probably had a defect, such as a void or a fold inside.
- MacEntyre
"We must, indeed, all hang together or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately." - Ben Franklin
www.MollyMacGear.com
I wonder if Harbor Freight has an x-ray machine
The aluminum probably had a defect, such as a void or a fold inside.
Ambulo tua ambulo.
Not necessary... the defect is usually exposed by the break. Just study the piece of metal that was recovered, and you might find it!I wonder if Harbor Freight has an x-ray machine
- MacEntyre
"We must, indeed, all hang together or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately." - Ben Franklin
www.MollyMacGear.com
Rug, not a thing wrong with that graphic. It conveys the idea perfectly. And makes sense.
Mac, that was my thought as well. Dutch does not need to form, bend, weld or otherwise change teh properties of the aluminum during manufacture. Just cut (water-jet?) and finish. But in the big world of aluminum smelting, with such a high percentage of recycling going on, a piece of slag or a void or bubble in a sheet is a very real possibility. While 6061-T6 is widely used, it is not "aircraft grade" such as 2024. While QC is good for 6061, I will bet (and I am not in the metals business) that 2024 gets far more scrutiny.
Closing thought: All decisions in hammock suspension are compromises. Some have wondered about the perceived "overkill" in the strength of UIAA-rated 'biners. And many here are searching for the last gram to shave from their rig. While DCs have been tested and used for many hang-nights they are at the cutting edge of the strength vs weight spectrum. While failures are very uncommon, it might be expected to have one (or some) at that cutting edge.
Jim
Big Guy who has DCs on his HH.
No failures for me but I have always used the DC in the "Good way" sensing less stress to the design.
Having worked in Non-destructive testing projects while in college, you never have 0 defects, only how much force at what angles to produce failure. I've had Triangle cinch buckles fail (At the weld) and I'm 220 lbs but another hanger who experienced failure was about 175 lbs. I do not use them anymore and recommend that you swap these out of your suspension or bring spares/ "Hang no higher than you are willing to fall". Jsaults is correct the manufacturing process is not perfect, air is not pure and neither are the metals in the smelting process.
Finally, if it was a metal that was close to ideal, they wouldn't be under $15.00 for the pair...
I like them just the way they are and accept the risks... Go Dutch Go!
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