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    strapworks.com is pretty good, as well as jacksrbetter.com. I made my own whoopie slings, so i'm not sure what to tell you about those, but i know a bunch of place sell them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalo Skipper View Post
    Is there a "supplier" who can provide all this for me? Network security at work prevents me from going to whoopiesling.com or to access all the pages of arrowheadequipment. Anyone else I should consider to custom the slings? If I go with a clip/biner, what should I consider? What are the advantages of triglides over a loop and biner or dutch clip? It is difficult to form an opinion on something here when I have not yet seen or tried any of these methods....
    I recently ordered all the same supplies as you're looking at now, and I ordered components from both Arrowhead Equipment and Whoopieslings.com I haven't received my AHE order yet but I've been very impressed with the customer service. The order from whoopieslings arrived and was exactly as described and nice workmanship on the sling.

    My current suspension (which whoopies will be replacing for weight-saving reasons) is Tri-Glides with Dutch Clips together - see this thread for details. This is about as simple a suspension as you can come up with, and requires no knots, as easy as adjusting a belt. The way I've got it set up obviates the need to even thread the tri-glide buckle around the tree, but you can do it that way too if you don't have the dutch clips.

    If you go with Tri-Glides alone, you have to thread the loose tail of the strap around the tree and back through the buckle, and reverse the process to take it down. If you use Dutch Clips or biners, you can just wrap the tree strap and clip it onto itself, so it saves you some effort in exchange for some added weight. If you watch Grizz's suspension videos he demonstrates the Tri-Glides as well as most of the popular suspension types.

    I ordered the Tri-Glides + straps and the Dutch Clips from Jacks R Better. Unfortunately they're out of stock on the clips right now, but you may be able to find some from another supplier or even another forum member with a spare set. Alternatively, if you wanted to use a similar suspension you could use biners in place of dutch clips and it'd be just as easy to use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalo Skipper View Post
    I hope not to start a riot with this one, but now, where do I go to get all this. I can sew, but would prefer to get 10' straps pre-looped (I can make my own later). Likewise with the whoopie slings. I have been splicing 3-strand, single and double braid for some time, but, even after looking at the tutorials on making whoopies, I would like to purchase a set first.

    Is there a "supplier" who can provide all this for me? Network security at work prevents me from going to whoopiesling.com or to access all the pages of arrowheadequipment. Anyone else I should consider to custom the slings? If I go with a clip/biner, what should I consider? What are the advantages of triglides over a loop and biner or dutch clip? It is difficult to form an opinion on something here when I have not yet seen or tried any of these methods....
    Paul Gibson at Arrowhead Equipment will make you some lightweight tree straps to your specified length...sewn in loops and fast shipment. He also sells lightweight climbing-rated 'biners if you want to use them.

    FWIW, when I'm using my whoopie slings, I just loop the strap through the sewn loops (no hardware - 0 grams) and tie a Marlinspike Hitch in the "loose" end. I carry one each 6' strap and 8' strap. That handles 99+% of my tree sizes where I usually go. I always have some extra Amsteel to extend the reach of the straps in case there is a REALLY big tree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beep View Post
    FWIW, when I'm using my whoopie slings, I just loop the strap through the sewn loops (no hardware - 0 grams) and tie a Marlinspike Hitch in the "loose" end. I carry one each 6' strap and 8' strap. That handles 99+% of my tree sizes where I usually go. I always have some extra Amsteel to extend the reach of the straps in case there is a REALLY big tree.
    Bingo! That is the kind of information for which I have been seeking. So what is the advantage of going with all the biners, clips and such? Personal preference? Or is one method really more reliable than another?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalo Skipper View Post
    Bingo! That is the kind of information for which I have been seeking. So what is the advantage of going with all the biners, clips and such? Personal preference? Or is one method really more reliable than another?
    From what I gather from reading this forum, it's just personal preferences/convenience. I don't believe there's much difference in reliability (unless you are over the weight limit for your suspension of course). The clip/biner basically just makes it easier to attach a tree sling without having to feed the strap through the sewn loop, or tie a knot etc.

    If threading the strap through the eye loop doesn't bother you, you can save the weight and cost of clips or biners for the tree straps.

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    I do like the idea of keeping it simple. So, if I just loop the tree strap through the eye, the eye stitching should be sufficient to hold the weight? (I know, I have read this plenty of times, for some reason I feel the need to ask on my own...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalo Skipper View Post
    the eye stitching should be sufficient to hold the weight?

    Yes if you get or make some that are intended to be used for hammock suspension then they will hold far more than your hammock will likely be made to support.
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    hahaha, i thought the same thing the first time i used a strap that i sewed myself. it will hold as long as you sew it well enough. i just use 3 parallel bars to secure it. if you want to get even simpler (though less elegant) just tie a double figure 8 on the end of the webbing to create the loop. either will hold just fine.

    on a side note, my grammar in this thread has been horrible lol. thats what i get for typing quickly from my phone >.<
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    Thanks,
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