After nearly a year of procrastination, I finally bit the bullet and ordered a Winter Incubator. After reading numerous posts saying the overstuff is overkill on this quilt, I stayed with the standard 800 fill no overstuff. I add my name to the growing list of Hammockgear fans. I have always been impressed with Adam's diligence when responding to issues involving his gear and this aided my decision. However, I now know that Thorwren is definitely the "great woman behind the man" or should I say "beside the man". She was a pleasure to deal with on a Sunday afternoon and totally went the extra mile in responding to my emails. I now begin the much hated wait time involved with such a highly anticipated purchase. My days of carrying bulky pads are finally over!