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    Quote Originally Posted by MacEntyre View Post
    ...solid fibers would be expensive and very heavy!

    Come to think of it, one manufacturer having any kind of insulation that is custom made, just for him, would be expensive.

    Yes, mtbikernate, Wiggy's again!
    i would think solid fibers would be cheaper actually, i think alot of the cheap poly fill from walmart is solid fiber for instance. heavy is right though, and i assume that's why wiggy's bags are heavier than other synthetic bags.

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    I could be wrong, but hollow fibers are trivially simple to make... they can be pulled out of a beaker. I believe solid fibers have to be extruded.

    Nothing is inexpensive these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacEntyre View Post
    I could be wrong, but hollow fibers are trivially simple to make... they can be pulled out of a beaker. I believe solid fibers have to be extruded.

    Nothing is inexpensive these days.
    you might be right, i know nothing of the process, it just seems like synthetic insulation has gotten more expensive as things shifted to hollow fibers and such, and the cheap stuff from WM that doesn't compress has gotta be solid fiber otherwise it would be more compressible (that's my reasoning anyway)

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    On second thought, solid fiber would not be extruded, but more probably spun the way they make synthetic thread. It's also pulled out of a beaker.

    Kinda fun to watch. I have a friend who used to work for a textile mill. He bought a couple of huge machines real cheap, and for years made net bags for hams. Recently, he sold the business lock, stock and barrel to another fellow. Anyway, to keep those huge machines going, he had a little reciprocating rig on a bench, that pulled thread out of a beaker all day long, completely unattended.
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    that would be interesting to watch

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    I have been on a field trip (10 years ago?) to the local Monsanto Plant (now Solutia, I think), and watched them making nylon thread, mainly used in the carpet industry. Very intersting. I have several friends who are retired from there and others work there still.
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    I'm definately curious to see the Wiggy's bottom insulation. Make sure you post pics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldgringo View Post
    Or deliberate obfuscation. I'm a cynical old b******.
    Obfuscation? I thought this was supposed to be a family friendly forum? Such language!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NFA View Post
    Wiggy's is the Kifaru of sleeping bags...

    That will mean different things to different people (and probably nothing to lots of people)

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    My blanket from Wiggys shipped today. Will measure and take pics when it arrives.

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