After not making it to the clear creek trip and having bought all kinds of gear for a cold weather hang, then reading about all the... adventures of the weekend? I'm left thinking with all the holidays coming up such as thanks giving, christmas, and new years how about another AZ hang when the holidays are over, hence hangover term. I figure after christmas time is perfect due to schedules usualy get tight between holidays with most people working extra hours and planning multi family get togethers. So any one up for another hang? I'm thinking oak creek, fossil canyon, or bear canyon lake... and first or second weekend after new years? Feel free to offer any and all ideas to build this into a liable option.