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    Full length ridge line vs. tying out from ridge line tie outs

    In the past I've used 8x10 non catinary cut tarps. I've always used a full length ridge line, I just received a MacCat Ultra SpinnUL and wonder what others have experienced with using a full ridge line vs. just tying out from the ends. I like being able to hang cloths and other things from this ridge line, but wonder if there is any disadvantage to this practice; i.e. wear in the fabric, stress on the tie outs, or something else I have not considered. I'm not too excited about the over the top ridge line as winter camping and wet weather on the line to be exposed to doesn't appeal.

    What are your experiences or opinions?
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    Full-length allows you to easily adjust the center point.

    Side-only can be faster because you tie off and pitch the tarp all at once. With a full-length, you often set up the line first and attach the tarp second. Side-only is harder to adjust the center once you've pitched.

    I think either version works great. I've been leaning more to the full-length lately, but I'm a proponent of the side-only too. I like that I can create the "V" around my hammock suspension so the two lines don't interfere.

    Check out this thread for some info.

    http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=16945

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    Thanks for the info, and the most excellent illustrations.
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    for me the choice is side-out. no fiddling and lighter

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    For me its the full length ridgeline... easier fiddling to get it centered properly. Plus its nice to have something to hang my wet clothes on to dry. I'll take a (1oz) weight penalty for this convenience.
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    I like to use a full length ridgeline. I figure I have to centre my hammock anyways so I might as well be able to easilty centre my tarp over it. I also don't mind the using an over the tarp ridgeline. All the guylines are exposed to the elements so its fine for the RL to be exposed IMO.
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    An excellent graphic and explanation of the latest thinking on this subject can be found here:

    http://whoopieslings.com/Tarp_Lines.html

    Personally I use this:

    http://shop.whoopieslings.com/Single...-Line-TRL1.htm

    This single ridge line with knot bone and figure9 works just about as well as I can imagine. In fact I just bought another one today to suspend my new JRB 11x10 tarp found here:

    http://www.jacksrbetter.com/11%20x%2...Cat%20Tarp.htm

    I pair the whoopiesling.com ridge line with a set of snake skins for lightning-quick setup in a super simple package, quick-change of pitches without untying from the trees and 30 second breakdown.

    Snake skin description here:

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    i skipped the snake skins and just use my side guylines to keep my tarp wrapped up. serves the same purpose. just 1 less thing to mess with

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    Leave no trace!!!

    I personally prefer the single ridge-line with a Figure 9 at one end for adjustment, but I also don't use this method much as I find that in adjusting the tarp to get it centered, the ropes move against and thus cut into the trees.

    I now use a Figure 9 at each end and spend the extra minute adjusting the tarp to get it centered so I'm not damaging the tree.

    Cheers,
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    I've always been a full length ridge line guy myself. My best friend makes fun of my hillbilly camp, with socks and underwear hanging all over the place. I've always had a rectangular non-catinary tarps with grommets around the sides.

    Now with this new task specific tarp on it's way, I wanted to get opinions and thoughts on the side only hanging method and see if people still use the full length ridge line. It makes sense that the side only method is lighter. I have alway liked the adjustability of the full length ridge line, I wondered if there might be a way to have your cake and eat it too maybe a highbred method having the properties of both methods. Folks on this forum are very innovative, creative and love to share. I hate reinventing the wheel.

    The more I think about it and read what you all have posted, the more I realize that there are benefits to both, but each are different enough that the only thing they have in common is that it gets the tarp strung up off the ground.

    Thanks, again, to everyone who contribute!
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