Biners as a Toggles

[Magoober]

Maybe this just happens to me, but I get irritated when my whoopie gets caught in the marlin spike knot. if i lie in the hammock then decide to adjust the whoopies, i often find that the amsteel has worked its way "into" the hitch and gets bound up, requiring me to pull it free. My solution is to run a 25kN biner as the toggle and connect the whoopie to it (rather than hanging on the knot)... works like a charm. adds a couple ounces to my set up, but no more binding = a happy magoober.

just throwing it out there to hopefully save some people some frustration

and hopefully my description makes sense to people other than myself :P

[Bomber]

you could also use your WS´s in reverse with some DutchBiners - light and functional...
Just my 0.02 cents

/Bomber

[Shewie]

Try putting your body weight on the tree strap before hooking the whoopie on, it should cinch up the knot nice and tight and stop the tape from grabbing the amsteel.

[Rat]

Yea, it's just you...
I use UCR so I don't have anything that slides around the toggle, but I do notice it sometimes gets buried after I have loaded the hammock.

[Magoober]

you could also use your WS´s in reverse

interesting... i never thought about using them in reverse. hook the fixed eye to the toggle and run the adjustable loop through the end channels of my hammock... hmmmm......

only problem i can see with that is that i have to run the bury after i threaded it through the channel. not that big a deal unless i want to take it off some day. though, a stopper knot on the tail rather than a bury would make it easy to undo....

[pizza]

My solution is to run a 25kN biner as the toggle and connect the whoopie to it (rather than hanging on the knot)... works like a charm. adds a couple ounces to my set up, but no more binding = a happy magoober.

I've done that before and it works fine. My preferred method now though is to reverse the whoopies and use Dutch biners.

[lazy river road]

I love having my woopies switched around. I have a 1/5 ft 1/8th amsteel loop on the end of the hammock. Attach Dutch Binger to hammock then to woopie, toopie to one ft amsteel loop to 4 ft tree strap. Makes for a light suspension system. With Dyna woopies. The nice part about this suspension system to is that all you need is loops on the gathered end of your hammocks and you can clip this one system to any hammock you have.

[scum]

I love having my woopies switched around. I have a 1/5 ft 1/8th amsteel loop on the end of the hammock. Attach Dutch Binger to hammock then to woopie, toopie to one ft amsteel loop to 4 ft tree strap. Makes for a light suspension system. With Dyna woopies. The nice part about this suspension system to is that all you need is loops on the gathered end of your hammocks and you can clip this one system to any hammock you have.

Hard for me to picture what you have here. Do you have any pics for clarification?

I too have had the woopie get buried in the knot. It hasn't really bothered me but it does kind of defeat the point of having an adjustable suspension that gets stuck and requires you to pull it apart. Does the size of the toggle (and then knot) affect this by chance? I've noticed in Grizz's videos he uses a rather fat stick for a toggle. I've been using a cheap biner.

[Dutch]

Hard for me to picture what you have here. Do you have any pics for clarification?

I too have had the woopie get buried in the knot. It hasn't really bothered me but it does kind of defeat the point of having an adjustable suspension that gets stuck and requires you to pull it apart. Does the size of the toggle (and then knot) affect this by chance? I've noticed in Grizz's videos he uses a rather fat stick for a toggle. I've been using a cheap biner.

I can help
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrYQMW9SHik

[scum]

I can help

Helpful. Thanks! I'm liking this method and the one mentioned by Rat in another thread. Time to start tinkering w/ my suspension again methinks. After all, I've had the same one for over a month now