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    Sleeping Bags vs Quilts

    As I am new to hammocks I have been reading up a lot on them. I noticed that most everyone here talks about using an upper and lower quilt. Does this mean that a sleeping bag isn't necessary? What are the pros to using a quilt vs a sleeping bag? Thanks

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    Mainly because it is easier to get into a top quilt in a hammock versus trying to get into a mummy style sleeping bag. Also, top quilts are lighter due to less material being used.

    I made a video between the two:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhkYhlZ1LCg
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    Hey Trevor,
    I think the main difference between a sleeping bag and a Top quilt in a hammock is primarily comfort. Since a sleeping bag is theoretically meant to be used for sleeping on the ground it goes completely around you on the bottom and top, making getting in one and moving around in a hammock in a sleeping bag sort of a pain in the bottom. Also, since you're compressing the bottom of the material (primaloft or down) in the bag against the hammock material, it pretty much makes the bottom insulation wasted. Top quilts tend to be lighter since they dont have insulation on the bottom but achieve the same warmth in a hammock since they cinch up tight under your shoulders and around your feet. With a top quilt you can squirm more in your hammock without having to slide the bag material on the hammock nylon like you would with a regular bag.

    You can def. still use a sleeping bag as a top quilt though. Actually I dont have a top quilt. I just use my sleeping bag like one and unzip it along the side down until about knee length to make a footbox. I just slide my feet in there and then use the rest of the bag as a blanket. Works fine.

    Hope this helps

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    @ Raul
    I just watched your video and it was great. Just trying to get into a sleeping bag would be a little awkward while in a hammock. haha I will be sure to check out more of your videos

    @Diezel Dorf
    Your info was indeed helpful. A bunch of friends and I are going to be hiking Superior Trail in Northern Mn in a few months and they will be using sleeping bags I think and now I can explain to them some tips.

    Thanks a lot guys. I appreciate it.

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    I think since you're new to hammocking it's worth emphasizing that you will get VERY little insulation out of the bottom of your sleeping bag due to it being compressed. If it is at all cold you will need to use something under the hammock(ie. underquilt) or sleep on a pad in the hammock. I'm definitely speaking from some very cold experience here

    For the record, though, I sleep in a sleeping bag. I think that I will move to a top quilt in time, but it's a nice bag and I am too cheap to get a top quilt. It is definitely inconvenient to get in and out of it, though, and a pain when it bunches up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Butt Stephen View Post
    For the record, though, I sleep in a sleeping bag. I think that I will move to a top quilt in time, but it's a nice bag and I am too cheap to get a top quilt. It is definitely inconvenient to get in and out of it, though, and a pain when it bunches up.
    Ya, I was thinking the same thing. How well do sleeping pads work? Are they enough for 3 seasonal hiking or should I just go and get an under quilt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fronkey776 View Post
    Ya, I was thinking the same thing. How well do sleeping pads work? Are they enough for 3 seasonal hiking or should I just go and get an under quilt?
    It depends on the individual. There is a thread on the subject here. I think I could go pretty low, but I am getting an underquilt because I don't want to sacrifice the comfort of the hammock and because I don't really wanna carry a pad if I don't have to. If you go with just pad, I'd suggest using one of the ideas in the "pads and their tricks section here.
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    I prefer my sleeping bag as it's more flexible. Fair enough I'm adding a bit of extra weight but it gives me a lot more options. I can zip up in my bag in my hammock when it's very cold, it let's me camp on the ground if needs dictate. Yet I can flip it over and half unzip it and use it as a quilt.

    I also like having the material rather than nylon agaist my back, if I use it as a bag I have the hood which wraps up nicely around my neck and the back of my head which helps keep that area warm.

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    You can use a sleeping pad and sleeping bag combo in a hammock.

    One of the reasons I bought a bridge hammock was that a sleeping pad and sleeping bag combo work slightly better in it as opposed to a gathered end hammock.

    I eventually bought an UQ and then later a TQ.

    I plan on supplementing the TQ / UQ with the sleeping pad and sleeping bag combo in sub 0*F temps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raul Perez View Post
    Mainly because it is easier to get into a top quilt in a hammock versus trying to get into a mummy style sleeping bag. Also, top quilts are lighter due to less material being used....
    Quote Originally Posted by DiezelDorf View Post
    Hey Trevor,
    I think the main difference between a sleeping bag and a Top quilt in a hammock is primarily comfort. Since a sleeping bag is theoretically meant to be used for sleeping on the ground it goes completely around you on the bottom and top, making getting in one and moving around in a hammock in a sleeping bag sort of a pain in the bottom. Also, since you're compressing the bottom of the material (primaloft or down) in the bag against the hammock material, it pretty much makes the bottom insulation wasted. Top quilts tend to be lighter since they dont have insulation on the bottom but achieve the same warmth in a hammock since they cinch up tight under your shoulders and around your feet.....
    Quote Originally Posted by Highbinder View Post
    I prefer my sleeping bag as it's more flexible. Fair enough I'm adding a bit of extra weight but it gives me a lot more options. I can zip up in my bag in my hammock when it's very cold, it let's me camp on the ground if needs dictate. Yet I can flip it over and half unzip it and use it as a quilt.

    I also like having the material rather than nylon agaist my back, if I use it as a bag I have the hood which wraps up nicely around my neck and the back of my head which helps keep that area warm.
    What they said pretty much summarizes it. I would add that with a synthetic bag, I suspect that you still get as much as 5 or 10 degrees extra back warmth, as it will not compress nearly as much as down. That's what it feels like to me anyway. Plus, once you are actually in the bag, drafts are not going to be a problem. They might be with a quilt, depending on the size of the quilt and your ability to not open up a gap if you toss and turn.

    When I use a bag as quilt, I find that the hood tends to get in the way around the neck/shoulders, interfering with a draft free experience. However, if I turn on my side, I can pull the hood over my head and arrange a breathing opening for a really warm experience. Last, my bags tend to be a good bit wider than my quilts ( and heavier), which makes it easier to keep things draft free when moving.

    A dedicated quilt with separate hood can be just as warm as the bag as long as you are able to control the drafts ( most of us can), and saves you the weight of useless(especially with down) bottom insulation.


    Quote Originally Posted by tjm View Post
    You can use a sleeping pad and sleeping bag combo in a hammock.

    One of the reasons I bought a bridge hammock was that a sleeping pad and sleeping bag combo work slightly better in it as opposed to a gathered end hammock......
    +1 on that, only for me it works WAY better!
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