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    no not really. i consider myself neutral. but when i factor in the weight of the PL AND the space it takes up in my pack i don't find it useful enough to carry...

    i consider myself a UL packer though...

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    I appreciate all the input and will show you guys my finished product when done.

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    What is the squished down in a compression sack size of a PL??

    Even an educated guess would be appreciated.

    Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by team FTB View Post
    What is the squished down in a compression sack size of a PL??

    Even an educated guess would be appreciated.

    Cheers.
    About two Nalgene bottles. A little less bulky if you are persistent and use a compression sack.

    They aren't the warmest or most compressible, but they are cheap insulation. A summer Burrow or JRB Shenandoah will be slightly warmer, pack to half the size, and be 25-30% lighter. But, you can get up to 9 poncho liners for the price of the Burrow or Shenandoah.

    For a hiker, they are horrible. But, for the car camper they can be lightweight and inexpensive insulation.

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    i was making and selling liner top quilts on here and they weighed right at a pound. I used them in the summer when i lived in NC.

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    When weather warms up here in Az I switch from my incubator and burrow to my te-wa 2/3 UQ and I use a poncho liner as my TQ....

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    If you are still looking for a poncho liner, consider one of these http://wiggys.com/moreinfo.cfm?Produ...TOKEN=58212924

    Wiggy's makes awesome sleeping bags, and I would imagine his take on the poncho liner is pretty well the best there could be.

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    Well, its been a while since I initiated this thread. I am happy to announce that I am finally the proud owner of a new, Brand spankin' new, Poncho liner. $32 price wore a serious hole in my pocket. Got it at a gun show from the militaria dealer. He said it was new, and Marine surplus. Gave me a razz about being Army veteran buying Marine stuff. Regards getting one off e-bay, or some other mail order business, I got a bad case of wanting to get "hands on, touchy feely" with what I buy. So I got the one that had the most "fluffy" to it. Combine it with the 3-season incubator, and I may just do some early spring hangin'. So far its a 'couch blanket for watching the tube. seems fairly warm, but awful light, like there's no "there" there. Now the concept of delayed gratification comes into play, waiting for warmer weather. I would like to thank those of you who gave advice. Thats what's nice about HF. Helpful research for the asking. Again, Thank You All.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ice man View Post
    Well, its been a while since I initiated this thread. I am happy to announce that I am finally the proud owner of a new, Brand spankin' new, Poncho liner. $32 price wore a serious hole in my pocket. Got it at a gun show from the militaria dealer. He said it was new, and Marine surplus. Gave me a razz about being Army veteran buying Marine stuff. Regards getting one off e-bay, or some other mail order business, I got a bad case of wanting to get "hands on, touchy feely" with what I buy. So I got the one that had the most "fluffy" to it. Combine it with the 3-season incubator, and I may just do some early spring hangin'. So far its a 'couch blanket for watching the tube. seems fairly warm, but awful light, like there's no "there" there. Now the concept of delayed gratification comes into play, waiting for warmer weather. I would like to thank those of you who gave advice. Thats what's nice about HF. Helpful research for the asking. Again, Thank You All.

    I have 2 PLs. I removed the tie outs on one, and was going to use it as an UQ with a mummy bag conversion. I hope to get around to trying it out this weekend. As for the last few weeks, its been very useful as my blanket at nights in the bed. I am very surprised by the weight to warmth factor. I need to get a few more--just to have.
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    Hope the OP doesn't mind my posting this on his thread, but it's a contiuation of his original question (I think).

    I'm also ex-Army. I have a good bit of my gear...am mostly car camper/short distance hiker, so weight is clearly not an issue.

    I'll be ordering my HH explorer and hex tarp next week.

    I was wondering what temp range I could reasonably reach with the HH explorer, my Intermediate sleeping bag (15 deg mummy issue bag, basically), CCF pad (issue), and then using a poncho liner and issue poncho as the UQ/UC? I'm picturing folding the PL in half, and using grab clips to attach it and then the poncho as an outside shell to the underside of the hammock.

    I already own everything but the hammock, so working with existing stuff. Thoughts?

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