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    to be fair, I found Nano-seeum stretches in ONE direction. If you can use the fabric in a direction that doesnt stretch, (along the length, it will stretch along the width) you will be fine. Mesh is always the most time consuming aspect. Sewing it to silnylon is frustrating, at least you wont be doing that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Splinter View Post
    Does anyone have any secrets to keeping the bugnetting out of the bobbin area? I can put approx. 5 or so stitches and then the bugnetting is stuck. I have tried different thread and losened the tension (major no-no) slightly. Any ideas? Please...

    Here is the stuff that I am trying to work with.
    http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___86662
    when researching how to sew tulle (which is even worse than noseeum) I read a suggestion I have not tried but which makes sense....sew the netting on top of a sheet of tissue paper. It will have to be sturdy enough not to get torn up, but evidently you can then just rip it off.

    might want to try tissue paper that is more or less the same color as the netting...

    (looks at link) oh yeah, I have some of that netting. I can see your problem..

    Grizz

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    That makes sense. I have some tissue paper, and I was also going to try paper as well. Dumb question... should the paper be in between the hem, or under? I'm not sure if that question makes sense. Oh well...I'll try again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Splinter View Post
    That makes sense. I have some tissue paper, and I was also going to try paper as well. Dumb question... should the paper be in between the hem, or under? I'm not sure if that question makes sense. Oh well...I'll try again.
    definitely under. You want the feeder dogs grabbing the tissue, not the netting.

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    The paper should be under where the seam will be so that it gets sewn to the fabric. Then it can be pulled off. A straight stitch throat plate would be a more permanent solution with less hassle if you have one. Or could fashion one.


    VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV - feed dogs
    | |
    ---------------O------------- Paper strip Taped in front of and behind the feed dogs.
    | |
    VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV - feed dogs

    That way you don't need to feed the paper as well as the fabric. Just a short cut to the same end... keep the hole small enough to keep the fabric out.
    Last edited by Ramblinrev; 07-08-2008 at 17:38.
    I may be slow... But I sure am gimpy.

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    I tried with the paper, but I had to feed the paper and fabric. Then stop and tear off the paper (which I learned, the hard way, is best to tear in half like a perforated piece of paper ) and start again.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ramblinrev View Post
    The paper should be under where the seam will be so that it gets sewn to the fabric. Then it can be pulled off. A straight stitch throat plate would be a more permanent solution with less hassle if you have one. Or could fashion one.


    VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV - feed dogs
    | |
    ---------------O------------- Paper strip Taped in front of and behind the feed dogs.
    | |
    VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV - feed dogs

    That way you don't need to feed the paper as well as the fabric. Just a short cut to the same end... keep the hole small enough to keep the fabric out.
    No offense ramblinrev... I just learned what a bobbin was two weeks ago. are you meaning tape the paper on top of the feed dogs? Will the fabric feed or do I need to help walk it through? Also the hole in the paper, I'm going to let the needle put the hole in the paper. Please correct me if I am wrong.

    Thanks for the help!
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    the strip of paper goes between the feed dogs
    it is taped in front of and behind to keep it in place
    it should be maybe a couple of inches longer than the feed dogs so you have enough room for the tape
    you allow the needle to put the hole in the paper

    I think this is somewhat easier to manage than feeding the tissue _unless_ you have to zig-zag the seam. Then feed the paper as Grizz suggested.
    Hope that solves the mystery....
    I may be slow... But I sure am gimpy.

    "Bless you child, when you set out to thread a needle don't hold the thread still and fetch the needle up to it; hold the needle still and poke the thread at it; that's the way a woman most always does, but a man always does t'other way."
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    Lots of pins.

    With mesh or tulle the feed dogs move the bottom piece along, but the top piece doesn't always keep up, therefore the two pieces get out of sync. Pinning every few inches can keep this from happening.

    After a lot of practice you can learn to apply pressure to the two pieces on the deck of the machine as the fabric is feeding to the needle and minimize slippage.

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    The problem seems to be punching throught the throat plate rather than slippage... although that is sure to follow when the punching problem is solved. That's the other problem with the tissue paper along the seam is it can lead to more slippage
    I may be slow... But I sure am gimpy.

    "Bless you child, when you set out to thread a needle don't hold the thread still and fetch the needle up to it; hold the needle still and poke the thread at it; that's the way a woman most always does, but a man always does t'other way."
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    This could be interesting. I may wind up doing this the way Grizz said. There are four rows of feed dogs:

    >> >> << <<
    >> >> << <<
    >> <<
    o
    >> <<
    >> >> << <<
    >> >> << <<

    (motion is from bottom of screen towards top)

    I'm going to try with the tape and see how it works. I've gotten enough done to hang on the hammock. It looks REALLLLY ugly, but I've got a three day hang tomorrow, and if push comes to shove, I have a top cover that does keep the gnates off. Thanks for your help. I'll keep tinkering with it until I get it or throw the machine to the side of the road and buy a speer hammock
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