Superfly wait list

[Mountain Gout]

That will probably be me as of tonight.. Kinda an early birthday present for myself.. Really don't mind waiting, other than the waiting part..
I read quite awhile back Brandon doesn't seal the pullouts? What do you folks use for that? and is it easy to find? Thanks in advance..

[Cannibal]

I've not sealed the panel pulls on any of my SuperFlies. Any leakage that occurs will run down the tarp wall and drip from the bottom edge anyway, so it has no impact on me or my hammock. Honestly can't say I've ever even seen any leakage, but I generally only take a SuperFly during winter...rain isn't much of an issue and snow doesn't leak much.

[gates]

I used my Superfly unsealed in heavy rain this fall. While they did leak a little, a few drops just ran down the tarp or dropped directly on the ground away from me like Brandon said.

[strom2127]

hey guys, I just got my first hammock for christmas. Woo hoo!! Next up...tarp. I'm pretty much set on sticking with Warbonnet for this purchase as well. I plan on having doors as the odds of a rainy night or strong winds seem about 50/50 for nice weather. Question is whether to go with the mambajamba or the superfly. Please point me in the right direction.

[Otis_Hiker]

hey guys, I just got my first hammock for christmas. Woo hoo!! Next up...tarp. I'm pretty much set on sticking with Warbonnet for this purchase as well. I plan on having doors as the odds of a rainy night or strong winds seem about 50/50 for nice weather. Question is whether to go with the mambajamba or the superfly. Please point me in the right direction.

If you feel you want doors for stormy nights...I would just go with the superfly that has doors built in...then there's no fussing with added doors yadda yadda...I may be a little biased as I own one of the new SF's with built in doors....and I HIGHLY recommend it.

[The Rambler]

I am also currently waiting on my superfly. I noticed on the warbonnet Brandon recommends just tying the tarp out from the ends. Is this what everyone does, or do some of you have a continuous rideline.

I know it doesn't really matter, but I would prefer a continuous ridgeline. Just wondering how all of you have yours set up.

[titanium_hiker]

I am also currently waiting on my superfly. I noticed on the warbonnet Brandon recommends just tying the tarp out from the ends. Is this what everyone does, or do some of you have a continuous rideline.

I know it doesn't really matter, but I would prefer a continuous ridgeline. Just wondering how all of you have yours set up.

The thought behind no continuous ridgeline is that you don't want rope rubbing your previously waterproof seams. That and the weight.

This other camp maintain they've got it better by being able to move the tarp along the ridgeline. The rubbing is solved by running the ridgeline over the tarp. In snow conditions, shug has mentioned in his video liking to run the ridge under the tarp to prevent collapse. (weight issue solved by using crazy light crazy strong cord)

TH

[warbonnetguy]

The thought behind no continuous ridgeline is that you don't want rope rubbing your previously waterproof seams. That and the weight.

This other camp maintain they've got it better by being able to move the tarp along the ridgeline. The rubbing is solved by running the ridgeline over the tarp. In snow conditions, shug has mentioned in his video liking to run the ridge under the tarp to prevent collapse. (weight issue solved by using crazy light crazy strong cord)

TH

you could have the same prussic adjustment without a seperate ridgeline. you could attach a cord to each tree like you would for a standard setup, and then a prussic to those, there's no reason it would need to be a single continuous line. the hard part i think about using prussics, is doing it so they don't slip any, (which is why i don't use them) i know my knots will stay where i tie them even when there's alot of force on everything from being pitched nice and tight.

"if tensioned properly" (with my tarps), the continuous rl could be slack under the tarp anyway, as you want all the tension on the structural RL seam of the WB tarp, however if most tension is on the seperate RL instead, the RL seam of the tarp may not be tight enough, and the tarp may not fully perform. same thing goes for folks using shockcord or any elastic tarp tensioner on the ground corners. the tarp will perform best when there's a good 30-40 LBS of force on each ground corner guylines,(i'm just guessing on the force, but it does great when pitched pretty darn tight) this stretches the fabric so it doesn't sag in the middle of the night, and keeps it taut so it performs better in wind. i'd bet 95% of those using elastic tensioners aren't pitching their tarp tight enough for max performance.

i've heard alot of folks say centering their tarp without a continuous RL to slide it on is difficult. i disagree with that too. most of the time you setup it isn't raining, so you'd probably set your hammock up first. say for instance you know your hammock RL is 100" and your tarp RL is 132", that's a difference of 32", (or 16" overlap at each end). just set up the first end of the tarp so it's got 16" of overlap past the end of the hammock (about mid-finger to elbow for me) and the other end will automatically be about the same. if you setup in the rain and set your tarp up first, it's just as easy if not easier. simply adjust your hammock instead of the tarp. I know all you continuous RL folks are using buckles or whoopies on your hammocks anyway so adjustment there is easy

[HamMike]

you could have the same prussic adjustment without a seperate ridgeline. you could attach a cord to each tree like you would for a standard setup, and then a prussic to those, there's no reason it would need to be a single continuous line. the hard part i think about using prussics, is doing it so they don't slip any, (which is why i don't use them) i know my knots will stay where i tie them even when there's alot of force on everything from being pitched nice and tight.

"if tensioned properly" (with my tarps), the continuous rl could be slack under the tarp anyway, as you want all the tension on the structural RL seam of the WB tarp, however if most tension is on the seperate RL instead, the RL seam of the tarp may not be tight enough, and the tarp may not fully perform. same thing goes for folks using shockcord or any elastic tarp tensioner on the ground corners. the tarp will perform best when there's a good 30-40 LBS of force on each ground corner guylines,(i'm just guessing on the force, but it does great when pitched pretty darn tight) this stretches the fabric so it doesn't sag in the middle of the night, and keeps it taut so it performs better in wind. i'd bet 95% of those using elastic tensioners aren't pitching their tarp tight enough for max performance.

i've heard alot of folks say centering their tarp without a continuous RL to slide it on is difficult. i disagree with that too. most of the time you setup it isn't raining, so you'd probably set your hammock up first. say for instance you know your hammock RL is 100" and your tarp RL is 132", that's a difference of 32", (or 16" overlap at each end). just set up the first end of the tarp so it's got 16" of overlap past the end of the hammock (about mid-finger to elbow for me) and the other end will automatically be about the same. if you setup in the rain and set your tarp up first, it's just as easy if not easier. simply adjust your hammock instead of the tarp. I know all you continuous RL folks are using buckles or whoopies on your hammocks anyway so adjustment there is easy

I had been using a full ridgline but after reading your advice about the performance of the superfly ridgeline seam I'll try your way.

[Cannibal]

I don't use a ridgeline with my tarps. I've tried, but just don't see the advantages for me. Superfly will do just fine with each end tied-out.