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    Jeff,

    For those who take a sit pad, etc, this is a great weight saver! Great job.

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    I've found that I really like having it for winter camping just for a warm place to sit. Then when I use it under my legs I don't have any condensation issues, so why bother with an underquilt there? Works for me, at least. Plus gives me backup for going to ground, as if THAT would ever happen...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Jeff View Post
    Plus gives me backup for going to ground, as if THAT would ever happen...
    AMEN Brother!
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    jeff, I was talking about summer, and Im a warm sleeper. I really want to see if i can get away with no foot insulation in summer. I hope so. even so, sit pads arnt that bad.

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    a pad under your legs does not suffer from the problems associated with normal ccf usage, you can't really feel any discomfort from it, and it is not so bulky and you don't need it to be nearly as thick or wide, and condensation shouldn't be much of a problem either. alot different from actually laying directly on one

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    point taken. and some vendors offer ccf by the linear yard. so 3x5 would be more then enough pad at next to nothing. and save weight and bulk of the quilt. 6 oz os really all you need for a great setup.

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    Quilts are much less bulky than CCF. But it'll save the weight, though.
    “Republics are created by the virtue, public spirit, and intelligence of the citizens. They fall when the wise are banished from the public councils because they dare to be honest, and the profligate are rewarded because they flatter the people, in order to betray them.” ~Judge Joseph Story

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    point taken, my old sleeping bags (several years, so no high tech stuff) bags were synthetic, and bulky as bulky can get. but i have never used down, so i wasnt sure.

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    Check the pic at the top of this page for some bulk comparisons:
    http://www.tothewoods.net/HammockCampingWarm.html
    “Republics are created by the virtue, public spirit, and intelligence of the citizens. They fall when the wise are banished from the public councils because they dare to be honest, and the profligate are rewarded because they flatter the people, in order to betray them.” ~Judge Joseph Story

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    ah, my ancient EMS bag is bigger then the KAQ.

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