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    Open the line with knitting needles first?

    I always pass the largest knitting needle first to open up line, large or small. It takes only seconds to pass it like a catheter. Maintain the opening and the bury passes more easily.

    The aluminum needles cost just $1 at Walmart or similar.

    I don't see reference to that practice in current threads on splicing.

    It also is not be obvious to noobs whether people are pushing or pulling the bury. Two different approaches.

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    The most recent reel of zing-it I bought seems to be woven tighter than my last reel and I had. I was having great trouble burying it. As soon as it doubled over I was unable to pull it through the threads. Two thicknesses of cord would not pass inside the cord.

    What I did to get over this was wrap the end of the cord in a small piece of cellotape/scotchtape. The tape was half overlapping with the cord to attach it and the other half I twisted together. I was able grab the twisted end of the tape with my splicing tool and pull a single width of cord through without fraying, getting stuck or getting blisters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrayDog View Post
    I use Opie's method and have never had a problem.

    http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=13779
    Thanks. That would explain my issue. I was burying one end, not both. Doh!

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    I'll pick up on this thread with a question instead of starting a new one.

    So, I'll admit choosing 1.75 mm Zing-It as my first attempt at splicing in 20 years since I was a Scout was ambitious, but I've do have it figured out. My fingers are sore!

    Question concerns the table Angry Sparrow mentions in the thread. If I'm splicing a locked brummel for a guy line, how long should my bury be?

    Thanks in advance!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ftroop94 View Post
    I'll pick up on this thread with a question instead of starting a new one.

    So, I'll admit choosing 1.75 mm Zing-It as my first attempt at splicing in 20 years since I was a Scout was ambitious, but I've do have it figured out. My fingers are sore!

    Question concerns the table Angry Sparrow mentions in the thread. If I'm splicing a locked brummel for a guy line, how long should my bury be?

    Thanks in advance!
    Bury length is 2.fids for a locked brummel, 3 for an adjustable bury, a Fid is the diameter x 21...

    at least that's what the Samson folks say...

    so for 1.75mm line, it's 1.75*21*2= 73.5mm = 2.9 in Is that right?
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    Thin piano wire bent in half once. No blisters, makes splicing zing it and lash it a cake walk. It is the strongest wire I have found at such a small diameter.
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    Thanks guys!
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    Having not done this in years it was a little frustrating last night. Today I'm knocking out guy lines in minutes. I am tapering the bury, using floral wire to open the channel and CAT-5 to pull the bury back through.

    Thanks for all the help! When I'm done with this 1.75 mm I'll be able to do Amsteel 7/64 blindfolded!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by opie View Post
    I never tapered any of the smaller lines I used.

    One trick that helps whether you taper or not is to turn the tail back towards the standing part so it helps shoehorn it in. Kinda like a funnel.
    This is a huge help.

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    Oh... 1 more tip... I have a 1/4" dowel sharpened like a pencil and sanded smooth... works great to pre- open holes for passing thorough. , like when making locked brummels.
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