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    Smile VIDEO: What I learned at the 2011 Mt Rogers Winter Hang

    1) I over-prepared and am glad I did, but will eliminate half my gear next year.
    2) Keeping your water liquid is an ongoing effort but is not that difficult if you have fuel
    3) Managing night-time exhaled moisture is something I need to work on
    3a) Ice-cold water dripping from your bug netting into your eyes wakes you up fast.
    3b) What was I doing with bug netting at sub-freezing temperatures, anyway?
    4) Site selection is not only key, dense brush can save you (or your toes) in heavy winds and sub-freezing temps.
    5) Alcohol stoves DO work in winter! (I knew you were right, Doctari)
    5a) But gas stoves pack a lot of BTU's!
    6) Neos overboots are AWESOME
    7) OR Meteor Mitts are AWESOME
    8) JRB Down Hoods are AWESOME (but I can't hear anything with it on )
    9) Walking in snow, esp postholing through crust, is exhausting, but floating over it in snowshoes is heavenly
    10) Pulking beats packing a heavy pack
    11) You need to eat, and eat often, before you become hungry
    12) Grayson Highlands is a beautiful place, and the staff is great.
    13) Hammockforums is populated with the best, friendliest, most talented, helpful and generous people.

    I'm sure there's more, but that's what is coming to mind right now. I may add some more later.

    If you were there, please feel free to add your wisdom learned in the Virginia snow.

    Here's a vid of my sleep system on the trip, if anyone is interested. It worked out well.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGUI0fnUtis

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    "I fish because I love to; because I love the environs where trout are found, which are invariably beautiful... because, in a world where most men seem to spend their lives doing things they hate, my fishing is at once an endless source of delight and an act of small rebellion; because trout do not lie or cheat and cannot be bought or bribed or impressed by power, but respond only to quietude and humility and endless patience...." --Robert Traver

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    Oh, another few things I learned:

    14) It's amazing how well a gutter nail can hold in only snow
    15) It's amazing how well a guyline can hold in only snow after pulling out the stake
    16) Piling up a snow wall at the inside of your tarp edge helps with wind while allowing falling snow to pile up outside and off of the tarp.
    --Scott <><

    "I fish because I love to; because I love the environs where trout are found, which are invariably beautiful... because, in a world where most men seem to spend their lives doing things they hate, my fishing is at once an endless source of delight and an act of small rebellion; because trout do not lie or cheat and cannot be bought or bribed or impressed by power, but respond only to quietude and humility and endless patience...." --Robert Traver

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    Good stuff Scott. And good meeting you there!
    I always find myself after one of these hangs, wishing I had talked more w/ people I rarely see.

    You said...
    Quote Originally Posted by bonsaihiker View Post
    16) Piling up a snow wall at the inside of your tarp edge helps with wind while allowing falling snow to pile up outside and off of the tarp.
    Good point that had not resisted w/ me yet (limited time snow camping).
    I piled up snow "out side" my tarp edges, but if we would have had significant snow fall, it would have piled up on the out side of the tarp more & pushed it in against the hammock.
    don`t leave the CREATOR out of the creation!

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    Excellent video Scott thanks. Really like your hammock layer system.

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    Good video. Liked your observation about using the sleeping bag as a top quilt on colder nights and climbing inside it on warmer nights. Probably contrary to what one might first think.
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    Nice show and tell Scott, nice looking setup you have there

    Thanks for sharing

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    Quote Originally Posted by OutandBack View Post
    Excellent video Scott thanks. Really like your hammock layer system.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shewie View Post
    Nice show and tell Scott, nice looking setup you have there

    Thanks for sharing
    Thank you both for the compliments! Glad you liked the video.
    --Scott <><

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    Quote Originally Posted by slowhike View Post
    Good stuff Scott. And good meeting you there!
    I always find myself after one of these hangs, wishing I had talked more w/ people I rarely see.

    You said...

    Good point that had not resisted w/ me yet (limited time snow camping).
    I piled up snow "out side" my tarp edges, but if we would have had significant snow fall, it would have piled up on the out side of the tarp more & pushed it in against the hammock.
    I enjoyed chatting with you as well, Tim. Those hangs are never long enough, are they? Glad you found use in something I wrote. At the Wise shelter I was glad the snow could slide off!
    --Scott <><

    "I fish because I love to; because I love the environs where trout are found, which are invariably beautiful... because, in a world where most men seem to spend their lives doing things they hate, my fishing is at once an endless source of delight and an act of small rebellion; because trout do not lie or cheat and cannot be bought or bribed or impressed by power, but respond only to quietude and humility and endless patience...." --Robert Traver

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knotty View Post
    Good video. Liked your observation about using the sleeping bag as a top quilt on colder nights and climbing inside it on warmer nights. Probably contrary to what one might first think.
    Hi, Knotty--thanks for the reply!

    I also was surprised at how well that worked, since my modus operandi when nearing the bottom of my temp range for a given setup is to climb into my (synthetic) bag which usually gives me at least another 10 degrees or more. I've had to rely on this several times after waking up cold, and it always works.

    It was while thinking about how I overheat so badly in my 0 degree down bag that I realized that the bag bunched up on top of me in quilt mode so much that it became effectively twice or more as thick, and I could not keep it vented because of the extra fabric. The night at the Wise shelter was the first I tried climbing inside to stay cooler and it worked very well. It was easy to vent when needed. I actually never did use the bag as a quilt on that trip, and stayed very toasty.
    --Scott <><

    "I fish because I love to; because I love the environs where trout are found, which are invariably beautiful... because, in a world where most men seem to spend their lives doing things they hate, my fishing is at once an endless source of delight and an act of small rebellion; because trout do not lie or cheat and cannot be bought or bribed or impressed by power, but respond only to quietude and humility and endless patience...." --Robert Traver

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    Love seeing what you used to stay warm and cozy! Looks as if it did the job.....
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