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    wouldn't the hammock ridgeline do this without needing one for the tarp?

    as far as the tarp goes, you'd have to also use some good hardware, a hanging rated biner at least (or no hardware). probably shouldn't use prussics either. how are you rigging this to maintain a high level of strength in the system?

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    Quote Originally Posted by warbonnetguy View Post
    wouldn't the hammock ridgeline do this without needing one for the tarp?

    as far as the tarp goes, you'd have to also use some good hardware, a hanging rated biner at least (or no hardware). probably shouldn't use prussics either. how are you rigging this to maintain a high level of strength in the system?
    Can only speak for my system, but...

    My hammocks have no ridgeline.

    I generally use a micro-carabiner on one end, clipped to a bowline, and around the tree. I imagine that's the weak point in my ridgeline, but not sure. Anyways I don't HAVE to use it, I can run the ridgeline through the bowline loop, then to the other tree which gets a trucker's hitch.

    I do use prusiks, but they simply attach the tarp to the ridgeline (via more micro-crabs). I don't think they enter into the strength of the ridgeline in any significant way.

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    As someone famous said, "Ther are known knowns,

    unknown knowns, and unknown unknowns."

    Falling branches are a crapshoot. IMO, all you can do is survey the trees you plan on hanging from and the adjacent trees, and choose your location based on the best info available. Having a tree or branch fall across the ridgeline is a remote, but possible thing. I believe there is a greater chance, especially during winter and spring windstorms, of trees losing branches anwhere from 1/4" up to ?". I have seen these fall like arrows, pointy-side first and stick into the ground. I doubt that a high-tensile ridgeline would have made a difference in these situations.

    That said, having a sturdy RL can't hurt! Makes me think twice about my recent switch from 1/8" polyester to Zing-It.

    Jim

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    If a widow-maker is coming for you, your number is up IMO.

    I have the same view with lightening. I use my best judgment to stay out of the way of both, but accept they are part of the risk of a life spent outdoors. Bears, bah! They are easier to deal with (in areas that I hike/camp) than the neighbor's Chiwawa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cannibal View Post
    If a widow-maker is coming for you, your number is up IMO.

    I have the same view with lightening. I use my best judgment to stay out of the way of both, but accept they are part of the risk of a life spent outdoors. Bears, bah! They are easier to deal with (in areas that I hike/camp) than the neighbor's Chiwawa.
    Take that pup to the woods for bear snacks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by warbonnetguy View Post
    wouldn't the hammock ridgeline do this without needing one for the tarp?
    I suppose the ridge-line as used in the WB would accomplish the same thing to a certain degree.

    I don't depend on any hardware. I take the the ridge-line round the tree and tie it off with a Siberian hitch. It's just a quickly tied slip knot. Take the other end round the opposite tree and finish off with truckers hitch or similar. Tying it off with a slipped sheet bend.

    No worries about weak or lost hardware and knowledge of how to tie a knot doesn't weight anything. Thereby the only loss in strength of the line used is the reduction caused by the knot used.

    The advantage I would see to using a separate RL for the tarp over just depending upon the hammock ridge-line is that it is higher above you thus a little added safety provided by the additional distance and no dependence on whatever hardware is used to attach the hammock itself to the trees.

    As Jim points out some limbs drop straight down like arrows. However, I suspect that happens to a somewhat straight limb falling some distance through open air. It makes sense that it would tend to seek its most aerodynamic orientation as it falls. I think that would not be the case for a limb falling through branches. So a strong RL would not help if the limb fell pointy end down. Not likely to hit any RL and then you'd be looking at puncture resistance of the different types of tarp fabric.

    My present tarp ridge-lines are paracord. I picked up some amsteel from a marine supply place while at NC coast a few months ago and been wondering if it would be worth the time to switch from paracord to amsteel.

    or maybe this is the best solution/attitude

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    and think more about these:

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