Shanewalker10--kitchen scales bought at Target or others like that, will weigh 4.4 lbs in tenths of an ounce. Or, you could go to the self service scales t your local post office, after they close of course, and weigh all of you stuff. Remember to step out of the way for paying customers.
I ended up looking at about a half pound savings on my total "sleep system" going from the ground to the air. With this said though there's a somewhat more bulk so my pack got lighter but bigger.
Tenting is simple but hammocking has much more of a "fidget factor". I've got a lot more moving parts with all the tarp, suspension, and UQ related bits. I think this is part of the appeal.
Considering weight only, I think the advantage goes to the tent if you're providing shelter for more than 1 person. My 3 person tarptent weighs less than 2 or 3 individual hammock/tarp setups. But... I don't sleep well at all on the ground after a long day on the trail. The increase in energy due to sleeping comfortably in a hammock far outweighs the little bit of weight difference.
'nuff said!Originally Posted by dand76
Besides... it's just cooler.
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I think people get away with a sloppy tent setup more easily and don't notice because the wind doesn't blow it over, the tent stays more or less erect, and the rain still runs off it ... unless it's really stormy, and then they think, well, that storm would blow anything down. A properly set up tent is one that is set up with all the guys set right to provide ventilation and reduce condensation, that will resist wind blowing it over, and keep the rain running off the taut fly and not pooling on the top.
Tenting is simple but hammocking has much more of a "fidget factor". I've got a lot more moving parts with all the tarp, suspension, and UQ related bits. I think this is part of the appeal.
Tents have the same level of comfort whether they are sagging in on the occupant or not. Much easier to notice a sloppy setup in a hammock, specially if it's one without a ridgeline.
fwiw people pulling #s off of websites should also heed things like guylines and stakes not included with weight. sometime companies include weight of stuffsacks, others don't. i have a 10.5 oz tarp that weighs 14oz after i include 6 guylines, 2 figure 9s and a blackbishop bag. it may seem like a small number, but if i shave 4 ozs for each of my 'big 4' i'm lying about a full pound...
Well said!!!
I resisted hammocking for a while because just a "heft" test with a friend showed that their hammock setup was heavier and bulkier than my TarpTent Squall.
But the way I see it now, carrying a hammock setup is like carrying a bed, shelter, chair, sanctuary, talking piece/ice-breaker, comfort, etc. So the weight difference isn't very significant anymore.
Well put Sprite!
For me if I don't sleep well I'm not happy (or plesant to be around). Hammock=happy for me and the weight is pretty close so I'm not going to worry. My whole 3 season set-up that was good down to 16* F weighs 5 pounds on the nose including stakes.
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Beginning my NOBO trip on the AT on 2/28/12.
My last AT section hike I carried a wild oasis, a 1/4 inch pad, a go light quilt, ground cloth ..... I only camped outside of shelters where forest duff was plentiful ..... Total base weight was 6 lbs.
I would never, ever, ever do it again unless someone figures out how make me 25 again.
There is a lot to be said for an extra two lbs of comfort. And there are a lot of places I'll cut weight before I take the hammock out of the pack.
Quilt 20oz
Hammock with all the goodies ..28 oz
Micro tarp ... 8 oz
Pad .... 14 oz
4 lbs, 6 oz
Vs same pad and quilt
Tarp ... 8oz
Bivy .... 8 oz
Ground sheet ... 2 oz
About 1 pound difference at most ...... When all is said and done .....
Is a good night worth a pound? Is 4 good nights worth a pound?
A good nights sleep ..... Priceless ........
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