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    My latest illustration for what it is worth.

    Also, Hangnout:
    What are the dimmensions of your hammock?
    Is it asym?
    Do you know the ballpark height of the bug net at the widest point?
    I assume the length of the bug net is the same as the length of the hammock

    I am trying to visualize ballpark dimmensions before starting this project.

    Finally, did you attach the bug net up to the point where the hammock is whipped. Or did you remove the whipping and sew the bug net along the entire edge of the hammock and then re-whip it?
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    Hangnout,
    I have to read more carefully. I think you answered all my questions in your previous post.

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    interested to see other versions!

    I'm liking the flap design wwk10

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    ShadowAlpha, the flap was Papa Smurf's idea.
    I am just championing it bc I want this creative group to work out the kinks before I try to make one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wwk10 View Post
    Hangnout,
    I have to read more carefully. I think you answered all my questions in your previous post.
    If you did not get all the answers let me know

    I forgot I made a scaled down version to make sure the idea would work. The video below uses the model to show how the bugnet looked on the hammock when laid out flat

    2sticks helped a little with this one


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    Transferring Bugnet Technology to Hammock Socks

    I had a few thoughts for Two Sticks and Hangnout...

    It occurred to me that you could sew the roof piece onto one side of the bugnet. That would make it a SEEP of Sorts, such as I use on the Molly Mac Gear Hammock Socks. You could still get in and out on either side. This would allow you to adjust the tension of the shock cords to change the height of the bugnet, and still make a good soft seal. It would also cut the soft seal length in half.

    The roof could be netting. A fellow suggested that a fabric roof could be soaked in permethrin.

    I want to make one of these for my Speer Hammock. It would be removable via the velcro. The Speer bugnet is very small, and is designed to be rigged low, close to your body, using the non-structural ridgeline. Your technique can do that as well, especially if you have a simple way to hook the two pieces of shock cord together in the middle. It would probably double the size of the Speer bugnet, but you could get in and out in silence!

    I realized that I could re-rig a Molly Mac Gear Box with shock cord, add a shock cord ridgeline, and have nearly the same thing. It would likely keep it from wanting to spill things under certain conditions. I'll post something on that soon. EDIT: I did it... it works very well!

    I also realized that I could modify a MMG Hammock Sock to make use of your method. If I shorten the SEEP, install a shock cord ridgeline, and add an arched panel with shock cord to the open side, I would have a sock that works just like your bugnet! Basically, it would raise the freeboard so that the SEEP could be shorter. I have a prototype that I can modify easily. One incentive to do this is that you could install the sock after hanging the hammock, because the ends would not be closed. I'll post something on this soon as well.

    I feel confident that your Zipperless Bugnet Technology can be transferred to SEEP style Hammock Socks readily! Your idea is truly brilliant!

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    I've torn apart my 1.1 double DIY and sewn pieces of netting to either side .....

    Brilliant ....

    Simply brilliant.

    A new hammock to play with!
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    Hangnout, based on your stuffed animal video, is this right?:

    Remove whipping
    Lay hammock flat
    Sew flat edge of bug net to edge of hammock
    BUT do not sew up to whipping. Stop a little short.

    When you re-whip the hammock
    Does a small bit of netting get whipped?
    Is it bad if some netting gets whipped?
    Is it good if a small amount of bug netting gets whipped?

    Also, when the shock cord leaves the channel on the bug netting what is the bitter end attached to?
    Is it tied off to the ridge line?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by wwk10 View Post
    Hangnout, based on your stuffed animal video, is this right?:

    Remove whipping
    Lay hammock flat
    Sew flat edge of bug net to edge of hammock
    BUT do not sew up to whipping. Stop a little short.

    When you re-whip the hammock
    Does a small bit of netting get whipped?
    Is it bad if some netting gets whipped?
    Is it good if a small amount of bug netting gets whipped?

    Also, when the shock cord leaves the channel on the bug netting what is the bitter end attached to?
    Is it tied off to the ridge line?

    Thanks
    I would stop just short of the whipping. This will allow you to adjust the shockcord to the right tension and make changes. The way I did it the shockcord just wrapped around the hammock like whipping and tied the 2 ends together. You could use one continuous piece of shockcord thru both channels with a cordlock on one end for adjustment

    It really does not matter that much. The important thing is to get the tension where it keeps the bugnet up and still be able to pull down to get out. If you don't put the cords under the whipping it is easier to make changes later.

    Clear as mud?

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    Got it. I like the one continuous shock cord for both channels with a cord lock.

    Except with my mod there is only one side has the shock cord.
    I think I will sew a tab at the head and foot end of the bug net and attach the shock cord to these tabs. I will also include a cord lock just in case I need to adjust tension.

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