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    Wabonnet Blackbird - First Impressions

    Wabonnet Blackbird 1.7 Double Bottom - First Impressions



    I might get alot of negatives for this..but I am just being honest.
    We all hang in our own hammocks..
    and none of this has ever been brought to my attention before purchasing
    thru other postings here or elsewhere..

    Let me start out by saying warbonnet blackbirds are top quality products. Warbonnet does a good job with innovative design. nice work Brandon! (IMO)

    With that said.. If your under 6 foot 2 and under 250 lbs, get a $40.00 canvas bottom WWII Jungle Hammock and you will be just as pleased if not more.
    These BlackBirds, like the Hennessey are for big boys. What I mean is.. if your big..or HUGE in size. it's for you.
    This model will support 400 Lbs. And the material is plenty big!
    I got the double bottom to avoid skeeters..1.7 was available.

    If your of Normal size (American males are still 5ft 9 - 5ft. 10 and under 200 pounds on the norm) these are just overkill period. (IMHO)
    They have nice names and nice people attached to them, but overkill. (IMHO)
    They do beat out the canvas bottom by a pound or two in weight..but im not a UltraLight backpacker.
    Light is good enough..under 5 lbs does it for me.
    I am a man who carries his own weight without crying about it...lol..anyways...

    You will have nylon wrapped skin which will sweat in the summer and freeze in the winter..(IMHO)
    ventilation is less than a canvas hammock imho, even with the breathable fabric.. without a breeze going, your going to sweat! (IMHO)

    And the mosquito net will hit you in the face when you rise to any occasion, although there is a ridgeline. (IMHO)

    You will fight with yourself trying to find that sweet spot to lay in, that most talk of..it's not canvas that you just lay on. (IMHO)

    An old Canvas bottom design lays like a cot..you can lay on your belly. You will not get the comfort canvas can afford you if you are of "Normal" size period. (IMHO)

    Once again, first impression and the quality is tops! (IMHO)
    Just my opinion and thought I would share it..
    If my opnion changes, I will alert the media..


    Canvas Mosquito hammocks- $40.00
    Nylon Mosquito hammocks - $130 and up. This model was $175.00.. again..Top quality and workmanship..
    I would buy one again if I was LARGE, Just overkill for normal size people without the comfort.
    Last edited by FubyDoo; 03-17-2011 at 20:08. Reason: to add in (IMHO) inserts to sound less condescending?

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    I'm 5'10", 150 lbs, and have a 1.1 single layer Blackbird since it's designed for someone like me. Works great!
    I don't see why I'd need a canvas WWII hammock.
    The chart from Brandon's website does a great job of helping someone narrow down their choice.

    BTW - welcome to HF
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    Maybe it will grow on you......maybe not. Like cars we all have preferences.
    I backpack and those canvas ones weigh around 4 pounds so I know I was looking for lighter options. Way back...I carried a Lawson hammock and it was 5 pounds.
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    There sure are a lot of absolute statements there for an 'opinion'.

    Of course, there are a whole bunch of people that disagree with you, including my 6' self. Still, like you said, we all hang our own hammocks. Too bad it didn't work out for you. Even if it isn't the Blackbird, there are many, many, many better options out there than a canvas hammock. Good luck in your search.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cannibal View Post
    There sure are a lot of absolute statements there for an 'opinion'.
    I always thought that is what an opinion is..someone making a statement about sumptin...
    We all have' em..sorry we don't agree..some might..
    Did you want me to lie and say I loved it if I didn't?
    That just tant my style..sorry..have you actually layed in a canvas hammock?
    forget the weight..I understand ounce counters..im talking comfort..

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    Quote Originally Posted by FubyDoo View Post
    I always thought that is what an opinion is
    Then consider not telling me what I will and won't do. There are opinions and there are statement of facts. Your personal opinion doesn't include me or anybody else who reads this.
    Quote Originally Posted by FubyDoo View Post
    You will have nylon wrapped skin which will sweat in the summer and freeze in the winter..
    ventilation is less than a canvas hammock imho, even with the breathable fabric.. without a breeze going, your going to sweat!

    And the mosquito net will hit you in the face when you rise to any occasion, although there is a ridgeline.

    You will fight with yourself trying to find that sweet spot to lay in, that most talk of..it's not canvas that you just lay on.

    An old Canvas bottom design lays like a cot..you can lay on your belly. You will not get the comfort canvas can afford you if you are of "Normal" size period.
    Every member's opinion is valuable around here. No foul, I'm simply pointing out your rather forceful opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cannibal View Post
    Then consider not telling me what I will and won't do. There are opinions and there are statement of facts. Your personal opinion doesn't include me or anybody else who reads this.

    Every member's opinion is valuable around here. No foul, I'm simply pointing out your rather forceful opinion.
    I don't rememebr telling you to do or dont do anything??


    Seems your a bit hot under the collar..try canvas...

    sorry..didn't mean to ruffle any feathers..

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    "nylon wrapped skin" applies to any modern hammock. and "you will sweat" is nonsense I'm afraid. YOU may sweat, but "you WILL sweat" are two very different things. I don't sweat in mine at all, and have never sweated in a nylon hammock no matter what the temperature.

    So I'm with Cannibal. Don't make statements and say they're personal opinions, since your statements are incorrect.

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    No feathers ruffled.
    I actually have 3 different hammocks made out of canvas; one of them is quite comfortable. They are very hot in the summer, but do give a little bit of a boost in the shoulder seasons.

    Curious, is the Blackbird the first nylon hammock you've tried? You might be more of a Claytor, or Clark type of hanger. It doesn't sound like you enjoy extra room in a hammock. Both of those brands are much narrower and might work better for you.
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    I have the bb dbl. and the traveler dbl, 5ft.10 170 ish lbs.. Love em, double overkill
    We would be one step closer to world peace, if everyone slept in a hammock..

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