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    Managing your guylines

    A few posts lately on "how-to-stow your guylines" got me thinking about a simple fool proof way to keep the lines coiled, tangle free and ready to go.
    I've tried several methods over time and some work and some don't.
    Hanking the line is nice and has done a good job. But it left a bunldle of line exposed that eventually became tangled with another bundle. And for me, sometimes worked its way loose.

    So I was thinking of a something that you could wrap the line on. I made a simple hourglass shape from a plastic lid and wrapped the line around that. That worked but was something more to carry and keep track of.
    Or to lose. And it still left something dangling to snag on something else.

    As I unwrapped the hourglass card, I was thinking if the card was attached somehow to the tarp. But that meant doing something permanent, like sewing the card to the tarp.
    I sat there for a minute, holding the webbing tie out in my hand, when a lightbulb went off.....wrap the line around the webbing tie out!

    So, I gave the guyline a wrap around the tie out and stuck the loose end back thru the larkshead, to see how well it would perform.
    Gave it a good test, shaking, flopping, whipping the bundle everywhere, simulating a windy day or packing the tarp. Good! Everything stayed put! Didn't come loose, didn't unravel. Tried the wild shake again, still in place.

    Tried it with mason's line, dynaglide, string, it all worked well.

    So, on with the pictoral, for those who don't like to read. Or don't want to hear my rambling...

    I started out with a simple overhand knot/bowline that I larksheaded to the tieout.
    guyline wrap 003.jpg

    Started the wrapping process. Not so tight as to crush the tie out.
    guyline wrap 004.jpg

    Down to the last little bit, this was 8 feet of a cheapo braided utility line, like masons line I picked up at the hardware store for $4 for 300 ft., iirc.
    guyline wrap 006.jpg

    Take the tail and guide it thru the larkshead loop and gently snug it up.
    guyline wrap 009.jpg

    Finished results. I call it the "bee-hive" . Simple and easy. When you need the line, pull the tail free and unwind from the tie out. No tangles. No knots. No bundle hanging out.
    guyline wrap 007.jpg

    So far it seems to solve the tangling issue. Easy to do with no special techniques, or fancy knot work. Stays put till you need it.

    If I tried to yank it free without first removing the tail the bundle locked up and reminded my to untuck the tail. So fairly idiot proof, even for me.
    Simple, easy and not hard to do.
    Hopefully it will help others. Give it a try, and let me know what you think.
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    Good idea G!
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    one reason I like the Speer no tangle line. I can leave my lines loose on the tarp and they just pull right out
    'Classic.' A book which people praise and don't read.” ― Mark Twain

    Who cares about showers, gourmet food, using flush toilets. Just keep on walking and being away from it all.

    There are times that the only way you can do something is to do it alone.

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    That technique works well for guy lines that don't have a self tensioner in them. I use the Whoopieslings.com style guy lines with a tubing self tensioner on the loop end at the stake. I figure 8 coil my lines and secure with a velcro cable wrap (rubber band would work too). Even with rolling up 2 hanks with the tarp fabric to fit into my snake skins is no issue.

    As the saying goes, do what works best for your situation.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ewker View Post
    one reason I like the Speer no tangle line. I can leave my lines loose on the tarp and they just pull right out
    I know. Just another options for folks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gargoyle View Post
    I know. Just another options for folks.
    that is true....carry on
    'Classic.' A book which people praise and don't read.” ― Mark Twain

    Who cares about showers, gourmet food, using flush toilets. Just keep on walking and being away from it all.

    There are times that the only way you can do something is to do it alone.

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    Thanks for the ideas and the writeup. I'm going to try this.

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    I like the K.I.S.S approach - no extra´s, nothing to break and no weight.... perfect
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