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    Dutch CLips rough on tree straps?

    Hey everyone,

    I just got back from hanging for 8 nights straight (well except that one night in the tent with my wife). The first day I hung my Traveler on my usual straps, sat down to test it, started hearing a popping sound. Next thing you know I am on the ground. Strap broke. I have been using these straps with Dutch clips since December and haven't been able hang that much.

    So luckily I had the stock Warbonnet straps in my bag. Brand new, so I used them the entire week with no issues. I used them on multiple trees of varying diameter so I wasn't loading the strap at the same place all the time. I noticed when I took my hammock down the last day, that the straps were already showing some wear where they contact the Dutch Clip.

    Does anyone else get this premature wear? I don't want to give up the Dutch clips, but I don't want to replace the straps every other month or so either.

    I may try the carabiner setup like WarbonnetGuy shows in his videos and see if that changes things.

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    I noticed some wear early on with the DCs, but I also learned I wasn't positioning them correctly. Put the DC on the side of the tree instead of forming a "V" pointing to the hammock. It seems to put a lot less stress on the clips and therefore, on the straps. I haven't noticed any undue wear and tear since I started using them 'correctly'.

    I admit (with some reservation) that I still like the simplicity of a biner and ring set-up. I have Dutch Clips and use them often, but I still use biners for new hangers because there is nothing to 'know' about using them and nothing to really pay attention to during set-up. Genuine Draft also gets biners on her set-ups...same reasons.
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    None so far, & I've used em a LOT. BUT, I agree with Cannibal: Make a "P" around the tree not a "V" pointing to the hammock & it will be easier on the straps AND the Dutch Clips. After about 200 uses (In one year), many of them doing a V, my clips are very slightly warped, still no signs of wear on the straps though. And the clips haven't gotten any worse since I stopped doing the V. Sturdy little buggers, probably not meant for the abuse I've put them through though.
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    The clip is suppose to be smooth. If that is not the case then I need to fix the problem. Is there a burr or something? They should not cause any more wear than a Biner.
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    I had a similar thing happen the other day while showing off my hammock, but it was my own darn fault. I didn't have the strap fully into the slot of the DB, and when I sat down on the hammock I got that POP and the end of the biner had punctured through the strap. Just have to be careful to have the strap fully seated into the slot.

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    Idea for DC modification.....

    What if we filed the edges down so that the webbing contact area is rounded instead of a sharp 90^ angle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rug View Post
    Idea for DC modification.....

    What if we filed the edges down so that the webbing contact area is rounded instead of a sharp 90^ angle?
    They are rounded, very rounded. I use a 1 inch belt sander and follow it up with stone tumbling.
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    Ok I inspected my Dutch clips and they appear to be flawless I regard to craftsmanship. They are sanded round with no burrs. I also went back to my straps. One looks OK. The other is somewhat damaged. It's almost like it was "scrunched" down in the clip from the weight of my body pulling it down.

    I did use them on the side of the tree this week with the pressure pulling back against it toward the hammock to cinch it to the tree.

    I will keep an eye on it and keep better mental notes next time.

    I hope I did not come across as putting the DCs down. They are great! I just want to make sure I am doing everything right with each component of my system.

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    No wear on my straps from Dutch Clips yet. Like others mentioned I position to the side a little rather than straight inline with the hammock. I only have one set of DC's though. My other whoopie set just gets the straps threaded through one another which works just fine.

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    I haven't experienced any strap wear and I always use Dutch clips. But, I am diligent about checking to make sure the straps are positioned in the clips correctly and smoothly.
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