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    Quote Originally Posted by Frawg View Post
    John, I like the idea but wonder if the butterfly loops might gradually shrink away. I tried the butterfly on my (removable, Lash-it) ridge line to preset a couple of lengths that I could quickly switch between. Problem was, the butterfly loops kept pulling apart because the Lash-it was so slippery. I'd fear the same with AmSteel, so I'm curious how you fare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captn View Post
    Mine haven't moved even a fraction of an inch in 7/32 am steel and I'm pushing 250.
    Good to know, thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by peanuts View Post
    pictures, or it never happened
    Here are a few shots. I'm in the hammock right now. Pretty comfortable. Most of the ridge is gone. Hammock SRL has a bit of play in it. 2nd SRL out of 1/8" amsteel is pretty tight and strums a nice bass note. I've retied the alpine butterfly loops four times today changing the distance from end to end while tinkering with the setup with no issues. I'm convinced the alpine butterfly is the way to add weight bearing loops like this. (Shug, I tried laying "opposite" in the WBBB but it just didn't work for me.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnOscat View Post
    What are the advantages and disadvantages you see with this system compared to the typical UCR setup or whoopie slings?
    JohnOscat,
    I can't really tell from your pics, but I assume the other end of the suspension looks the same as what your pics show. Since the WBBB already has a ridgeline, what does the second one do for you? Are you using it as the ridgeline for your tarp? In the final analysis, the advantage of this system is that you like it. 'Nuff said.
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    Not my pics, Amac. Sorry, i didn't get out this weekend, ill post pics when I have them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amac View Post
    JohnOscat,
    I can't really tell from your pics, but I assume the other end of the suspension looks the same as what your pics show. Since the WBBB already has a ridgeline, what does the second one do for you? Are you using it as the ridgeline for your tarp? In the final analysis, the advantage of this system is that you like it. 'Nuff said.
    If I may .... The big advantages I found are a consistent hang angle no matter how far apart the trees and a ridge line for my tarp, which with silnylon takes the stretch issue out of the equation.

    The hang angle is determined by the length between the butterflies, not the trees. I hang my tarp off my tree huggers with the ridge line really tight, At the top of my reach, then clip on my hammock. Viola, pack to hanging in 2 minutes, no messing with suspension, etc. The same hang every time. And

    since the tarp goes up
    first, no adjustment needed for positioning the hammock under the tarp, everything stays nice and dry .... The fiddle factor stays at home, where you dialed in the perfect hang.

    I use the stock HH tarp most of the time .... The last thing I did was to double the length of the tie
    outs .... You don't lose much storm protection, but you get much nicer views out of the hammock, and you can also tie out to trees, etc. Instead of stakes.

    For someone who is a bit clostrophobic, this mod is a godsend.
    Last edited by Captn; 04-28-2011 at 06:14.
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    Question hmmm.. question...

    Let me make sure I understand how you guys are doing this before I attempt to make one.

    You are using one long line and tying two alpine butterfly loops, spaced dependent on your personal hang preference, to hang the hammock from. Then on the outsides of the loops you can do one of two things, use a UCR on each end, or a whoopie loop on each end?

    Correct?

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    Come on TBCTX, where are your pictures and comments????

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    Quote Originally Posted by crackedup View Post
    Let me make sure I understand how you guys are doing this before I attempt to make one.

    You are using one long line and tying two alpine butterfly loops, spaced dependent on your personal hang preference, to hang the hammock from. Then on the outsides of the loops you can do one of two things, use a UCR on each end, or a whoopie loop on each end?

    Correct?
    Basicly, also the reason for using an alpine butterfly is it is a knot that maintains like 75-80% of the lines strength if memory serves(I checked it before I did it the first time). As for holding I've never had slip in my 7/64ths amsteel one or my dynaglide one for that matter. Its been talked about a few times.

    My original thread:
    http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/s...ight=ridgeline

    Another thread where it came up was:
    http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/s...ight=ridgeline

    Some pictures of my original one are:
    http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pi...d&id=567846758

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleMJM View Post
    Come on TBCTX, where are your pictures and comments????
    I was getting my butt handed to me by the search engine trying to find the other 2 threads where it was mainly discussed, and yes blame Uncle Mike for me joining the thread (he commented on it to me.)

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