I was just at ****'s yesterday. They had both the aerosol and the pump of Sawyer's. It was in the camping section.
I was just at ****'s yesterday. They had both the aerosol and the pump of Sawyer's. It was in the camping section.
I think there are no worries about that. I don't know what percentage 5-12 MCG per liter would come out to. But, 1st starting with a .5% concentration. That is supposedly tightly bound to clothing so that it will take 5 or 6 machine washings to get it out of there. ( mainly broken down by air exposure?) Then, picture washing or wading in a stream, where whatever concentration is left in the clothes, and to whatever degree some cold water without detergent can wash it out of the clothes, the Permethrin washed out of the clothes(if any) is now diluted into thousands or millions of gallons of water.
I would be surprised if that could ever reach a toxic level for the frogs or fish. "highly toxic to fish in laboratory tests, but showed low toxicity in field tests". But, a little caution doesn't hurt.
you are likely right, but i'd just think twice before soaking everything that i own
Info I got from a video produced by ... I can't remember exactly but someone in the know ... showed that it was best to lay the farbic out flat on black plastic in the hot sun to dry.
Plus, hanging was no good as the bottom of the fabric was wetter longer and most of the permethrin flowed down and dripped off before drying.
My wife (a veterinarian) recently had to put down a cat because the owners BATHED IT in this stuff to kill fleas.
The cat developed constant tremors and periodically went into full-blown seizures. She had drugs that could relieve the tremors for an hour or so, but they didn't do well. She went so far as to give the cat lipid therapy (an experimental treatment in cats) because permethrin is fat soluble, and even then the lipid therapy was not enough to remove the toxins from the cat.
The people could not believe that they killed their cat, but the label specifically mentions not to put it on animals.
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I saw that vid, and thought at the time that was dubious, an unsubstantiated theory, at best.
That said, the Sawyer's soak method does not dunk/saturate the items to be treated. Rather, the items are rolled up tightly, placed in a plastic bag with a small amount of product, and dampened by capillary action. There is no drippage.
The only circumstance that would seem to require dunking would be when treating an item that is non-absorbent, such as bug netting.
Dave
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just picked up a bottle of Sawyer's (the pump) and have a question about applying it to a gathered end hammock. read and understood the directions, and obviously you need to hang the hammock up before treatment but should it be hung up as typical or should you remove the suspension and hang it up like a sheet? the reason i ask is that well, with a gathered end hammock the end is gathered, should that just be 'soaked' and called good or do i need to spread it out????
My theory is that I'm just trying to keep the skeeters from biting me through the hammock so I only worry about getting good coverage on the underside. Anywhere my body might press against the material gets treated. So basically I spray everything from about a foot in on either end.
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