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    Securing ring on cord

    Hey,
    For my suspension, I run a pretty standard 3:1 advantage "trucker's hitch" set up.
    I have a question about securing the ring to the suspension line.
    Right now, I'm using a simple lark's head. I don't know if it's possible under load, but if one of the loops worked its way around the ring, the ring would pop out of the knot.

    Help put my mind at ease, or suggest another way to secure the ring.

    Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chingyul View Post
    Hey,
    For my suspension, I run a pretty standard 3:1 advantage "trucker's hitch" set up.
    I have a question about securing the ring to the suspension line.
    Right now, I'm using a simple lark's head. I don't know if it's possible under load, but if one of the loops worked its way around the ring, the ring would pop out of the knot.

    Help put my mind at ease, or suggest another way to secure the ring.

    Thanks
    Methinks if you are using a truckers hitch you are pulling the suspension far, far, far, far too tight. You shouldn't even need any mechanical advantage at all. Ideally the suspension should be sagging before you even get in the hammock.

    Look at the excellent graphic that Dehoja has posted to see what I mean. Also, the graphics here will maybe explain a little more.
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    Even with a structural ridgeline?
    For me, the mechanical advantage isn't so much for tensioning, but reducing load on the slip knots.
    I could switch to whoopies, but i'd already invested in the spyderline.
    May still try it. Have lots of dynaglide around and I only weigh 150lbs.

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    I can't imagine the knots would migrate under load. Just take a quick visual check before getting in...the same as I do with whoopies at the toggle.

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    To set your mind at ease, you could use a prussik instead of a girth hitch. The extra wrap should be more secure but you don't really need it. Many folks are using similar setups (I used a girth hitch to attach my 2 descender rings together and to my hammock for my webbing suspension cinch buckles with no issues).

    However, there are easier methods IMHO.

    Many ideas on line and strap connection from Grizz's videos here and here. My favorite is at 1:50 in the second video. Uses a descender ring and has a great deal of adjustability.

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    once you put your weigh onto the larks head/ ring hitch it will stay very well in place and one would have to work at it a bit to get it to release so one could take the ring off

    in other words don't worry about it - it will stay once its loaded once

    in prior times I used a single ring with the larks head attachment to the hammock with a strap / girth hitch going to the tree - never had any issue with the ring coming loose

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    Like the others have said, once there's tension on the cord it's not going to slip anywhere. Maybe add a rubber ring or a couple of wraps of tape either side, not that they're needed but it will help put your mind at rest.
    I larkshead both my fixed loop at the hammock and my whoopies to my rings and never had any slippage.

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