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    First time, first purchase, accesories, add ons, questions ?

    Hi,

    I have decided to start hammock camping here in Japan! Yay!

    I just made my first purchase.

    Purchased:
    *Blackbird Double Layer 1.1(slate green/grey)
    *Adjustable Webbing Suspension + carabeiner set
    *Superfly - Silnylon Tarp
    *Big Mama Jumba, Top Quilt: Mamba 3-season regular.

    I have done so much reading my mind has burst. My mind started to erase what I learned in the beggining lol... So I decided just to ask here.

    Should I use carabiners or switch to antother method?
    Should I upgrade any of the webbings etc.?
    Do I need any other items? ( Let's assume I have only walmart type sleeping pads and no other shelter gear.)
    Do I need tent stakes?
    Feel free to add anything else...I just want to get all the ordering done so when it arrives I should have everything at the same time!

    I live in Japan and the shipping takes forever so I want to order everything a.s.a.p.

    Thanks for everyones input!

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    Senior Member DiscoveryDiver's Avatar
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    Hey! Where in Japan are you?

    I'm down here in Kanagawa and we have another new hanger in the Tokyo area as well...

    We are actually going to hang at Motosuko Lake (near Mt. Fuji) this weekend. You are free to join if you can make it. There will be a handful of hangers (5), another handful of tenters, and yet another couple handfuls of folks in the camp's cottages/bungalows.

    I'll be manning the grill, which means there will be plenty of good stuff to eat, and the weather looks like it's going to cooperate.

    If you brought your gear, I might be able to help you out with some questions about your rig...


    I can show you how I rigged up my Superfly...a very lovable tarp...
    You'll definitely need some stakes if you don't have some already...a couple for the hammock and at least 4 for the tarp, up to 8 possible if you close and stake the doors...

    The event is sponsored by my diving group, but it will only be one dive in the morning, and over well before lunch...
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    Last edited by DiscoveryDiver; 05-30-2011 at 03:16.

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    Oh man now I am jellous

    I am up in Akita! All alone up here lol. I won't have time to get to Tokyo this weekend. I will definatly join you in the future though!

    I also forgot to ask about adding the whoopy sling method.

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    Senior Member DiscoveryDiver's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by japanlinked View Post
    I am up in Akita! All alone up here lol. I won't have time to get to Tokyo this weekend. I will definatly join you in the future though!

    I also forgot to ask about adding the whoopy sling method.
    Yeah, that's pretty far up there...

    There's lots of good reading here if you search...and you'll get lots of good advice here for sure...

    One route that would get you hanging ASAP is to hang your hammock as is for a while to get used to setup and takedown. Then you can think about modifying your suspension later.

    The Superfly comes naked in terms of lines, so to use it at all, you'll need to tend to that first. Do you have any guyine? For mine, I used the stuff Brandon sells (Zing it?) for the tarp ridge line (2 piece) and then for the four corners and pull-outs I used Kelty Triptease for visibility. For the doors, I used bungee.

    I'll have to do a video sometime soon (maybe this weekend) of my lines, but I think others have done it already...

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    Tarp no lines

    Oh, well there you go I didn't know I needed lines at all :[

    Feel free to put together a shoping list for me lol

    I will do some research and try and find where to get it all.

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    Brandon's (warbonnetguy) hammocks come ready to go. Leave it stock and you'll have a chance to use it as is. There is no need for retrofitting with other suspensions. (Other than the fiddle factor. )

    You'll need some sort of under insulation (a pad or a underquilt).
    Stakes for the tarp.
    Line for the tarp. 100' of any good cord will do. Some for a ridgeline, and some for the guylines.
    Two trees.

    Welcome to the forum.

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    welcome to the BB clan.

    A closed cell foam (ccf) pad works just fine in a BB double as the double layers help to keep the pad shifting to a minimum. I use a Wallyword wide blue bad (24" wide) in mine and have used it down to 18 degrees (your mileage may vary). I use my pad as is but many people cut the pad down in size and shape.

    Have fun
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    why did you get a superfly and a big mamajamba?

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    your already getting good instructions,,,welcome to the forum
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    Having the WBBB and the Superfly, you'll want to have at the minimum of 6 stakes. 2 for the BB and 4 for each corner of the tarp. You can up that total to 10 if you want to include 4 more stakes for the additional 4 pullouts on the the Superfly. Ideally, I would say you only need 2 of the pullouts in action though as the shelf side of your hammock will not need the extra room, unless wind is coming from that side.I have an older model SuperFly that the doors are removable and snap on to the main tarp. The provided bungees at the base of the door I just clip to the opposite corner of the tarp, no stake required. Not sure if you can do this with the new SuperFly or not.

    If you are backpacking and want to reduce weight, you might want to consider getting some Dutch Clips instead of carabiners and changing over to Whoopie Slings. You'll save some weight but barely noticeable in the grand scheme of things. I have the Dutch Clips but still continue to use the webbing provided by Brandon. The ease of using the webbing suspension outweighs any weight savings I would gain by changing over to Whoopies. Just my take on the subject.

    Hope you enjoy all the new gear. Now is the hardest part. . . the waiting game. Keep yourself distracted by looking into underquilts and stoves. Time will fly and next thing you know . . .
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