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    Greenbriar River Trail June 2006

    Sudden notice and off we went:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IJ8PKXZGAM
    WV here at HF had offered to shuttle-Dave the notice was sudden and I didn't want to disrupt your life in such short notice.
    The Greenbriar is a luxury trail for hikers/bikers/horsemen. We saw only 6 other cyclist in 80 miles, no horses(riders), and only one backpacker. Campsites are every 8-10 miles, right by the river and in Greenbriar County have shelters. Most have pump water and all are very close to the river if not right on top of it. The shuttle was pricy but they drove 2 hours to get us and then 2 hours back. No rain but one morning was at the limit of our summer weight quilts. If you are thinking about bikecamping or bike touring the Greenbriar is scenic, well maintained (super clean bathrooms and a mostly smooth riding surface), and 1-3% grade.
    The odd thing about the BGRT is that for 80 miles there was NO cell service, partly due to the giant radar aray near the northern terminus and the gov's jamming of ALL signals; but no signal south either...so carry some bike tools and a couple of tubes.

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    Glad you had a great trip! Yup there have been some cool mornings recently. Funny thing - I was walking the dogs yesterday and I looked up and saw the tree hanging off the cliff that you show at 6:49 in your video. I thought, "Boy! Those are some widowmakers for sure. Good thing there aren't any hammock trees underneath." I walked on the far side of the trail going past it.

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    David, what I learned above elses is that WVa is not far away and that there is a lot of wilderness to explore there. While pedaling I thought the river itself would make a nice 3 day paddle trip (if you add more water).

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    Quote Originally Posted by MedicineMan View Post
    David, what I learned above else is that WVa is not far away and that there is a lot of wilderness to explore there. While pedaling I thought the river itself would make a nice 3 day paddle trip (if you add more water).
    Sometimes nature does. There are gages you can access. Here is a link to the one at Buckeye.

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    MM,

    The lack of cell service is due to the fact that you are in the nation's only National Radio Quite Zone. This is a large area of land surrounding the National Radio Astronomy Observatory (NRAO) at Green Bank, West Virginia, and especially the large Green Bank Telescope radio telescope. The Radio Quiet Zone is a rectangle of land approximately 13,000 square miles (34,000 km2) in size that straddles the border area of Virginia and West Virginia. It includes all land with latitudes between 37.5°N and 39.25°N and longitudes between 78.5°W and 80.5°W. This area was chosen because it has a hilly topography that screens out most incoming radio signals, allowing the Green Bank telescopes to receive signals that are otherwise too low in power to be heard over the normal radio background in North America.
    The National Radio Quiet Zone also protects the antennas and receivers of the U.S. Navy Information Operations Command (NIOC) at Sugar Grove, West Virginia. The NIOC at Sugar Grove has long been the location of electronic intelligence gathering systems, and is today said to be a key station in the ECHELON system operated by the National Security Agency (NSA).
    The Radio Quiet Zone was established by the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) in 1958 to protect the observatory's radio telescopes from harmful interference. Omnidirectional and high-power transmissions are very restricted. Furthermore, fixed radio links are often built as tight-beamed directional links that do not illuminate the sensitive radio telescopes and electronic intelligence-gathering stations there.
    Not all radio transmissions are prohibited in the Radio Quiet Zone. For example Citizen's Band radios, police and ambulance radios, and fire department radios are used there. However, large radio transmitter owners must typically coordinate their operations with representatives of the National Radio Astronomy Observatory and the U.S. Department of Defense. The Allegheny Mountain Radio company operates the only broadcast radio stations in the inner core of the Quiet Zone, with just one station in the AM band, and several low-power FM stations. Most radio transmitters within the area are licensed by the FCC (just as they are in the rest of the United States). Exceptions to the Radio Quiet Zone restrictions are usually determined on a case-by-case basis, with preference given to public safety concerns, such as remote alarm systems, repeaters for first responders, and NOAA Weather Radio.

    Yes, that was pulled from Wikipedia. Also, I don't believe the government actually jams signals there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vdeal View Post
    MM,

    The lack of cell service is due to the fact that you are in the nation's only National Radio Quite Zone. This is a large area of land surrounding the National Radio Astronomy Observatory (NRAO) at Green Bank, West Virginia, and especially the large Green Bank Telescope radio telescope. The Radio Quiet Zone is a rectangle of land approximately 13,000 square miles (34,000 km2) in size that straddles the border area of Virginia and West Virginia. It includes all land with latitudes between 37.5°N and 39.25°N and longitudes between 78.5°W and 80.5°W. This area was chosen because it has a hilly topography that screens out most incoming radio signals, allowing the Green Bank telescopes to receive signals that are otherwise too low in power to be heard over the normal radio background in North America.
    The National Radio Quiet Zone also protects the antennas and receivers of the U.S. Navy Information Operations Command (NIOC) at Sugar Grove, West Virginia. The NIOC at Sugar Grove has long been the location of electronic intelligence gathering systems, and is today said to be a key station in the ECHELON system operated by the National Security Agency (NSA).
    The Radio Quiet Zone was established by the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) in 1958 to protect the observatory's radio telescopes from harmful interference. Omnidirectional and high-power transmissions are very restricted. Furthermore, fixed radio links are often built as tight-beamed directional links that do not illuminate the sensitive radio telescopes and electronic intelligence-gathering stations there.
    Not all radio transmissions are prohibited in the Radio Quiet Zone. For example Citizen's Band radios, police and ambulance radios, and fire department radios are used there. However, large radio transmitter owners must typically coordinate their operations with representatives of the National Radio Astronomy Observatory and the U.S. Department of Defense. The Allegheny Mountain Radio company operates the only broadcast radio stations in the inner core of the Quiet Zone, with just one station in the AM band, and several low-power FM stations. Most radio transmitters within the area are licensed by the FCC (just as they are in the rest of the United States). Exceptions to the Radio Quiet Zone restrictions are usually determined on a case-by-case basis, with preference given to public safety concerns, such as remote alarm systems, repeaters for first responders, and NOAA Weather Radio.

    Yes, that was pulled from Wikipedia. Also, I don't believe the government actually jams signals there.
    Wow. Wikipedia did okay. Reading that I was sure you were a local, maybe even someone at NRAO.

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    Nice trip MM. Greta to see folks out bicycling as well,,,,soooo quick.
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    Currently I'm stealthing on the New River Trail about 15 miles south of Pulaski and there is plenty of 3Gt here. Thanks for the info on the radio silence..maybe we need more of it elsewhere too.

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    Wow, It's beautiful there! Glad you finally made it to the Greenbriar.
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    That was a fun video for a fun trip. Put another destination on my list...

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