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    On the subject of bringing "entertainment," I don't like to bring gadgets while camping (other than compass & GPS). I can see that they open up a whole new world of entertainment that a very few years ago was impossible. But, just as a personal preference, I try to keep the wilderness experience, well, wilderness. The book idea is nice, especially if it is an outdoorsy book (i.e. Cormac McCarthy). If it is a short trip, weight can be saved by xeroxing a couple of chapters or so. I'm sure my age has something to do with my opinion; I remember when my Dad brought the first TV into the house
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    I have done a few solos, and I agree with shug.
    Do a test run or two to get the bugs worked out.

    Make sure to tell someone where you will be, and what to do if they don't here from you at a pre determined date.

    Take a good survival/bushcraft book. No better ways to hone your bush skills than getting out there and trying a few things.
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    For all you Android phone users out there, you can now download the US Army Survival guide from the Android Market. So you can get your Bear Grylls on in the wild.
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    Be Careful of Altitude Sickness

    I am surprised that only one person warned you about going from your altitude to a much higher altitude at Vail. Altitude sickness can come on in a matter of hours and totally incapacitate you in a short time. If you get the cerebral edema form, it can cause unconsciousness in a few hours, and eventually death. The pulmonary edema form comes on slower, but can be equally deadly. Years ago a friend and I rescued an elk hunter who had chosen to hunt by himself and came down with a bad case of altitude sickness(pulmonary form). But for us finding him, he would have certainly died. We were hunting ourselves outside Lake City, CO and that evening after the rescue, everyone we met had their own altitude sickess story. It does not matter what kind of shape you are in, and thin or fat. I would read up on it before you go, and unlike many here, I would strongly caution against you going alone. Nature is unforgiving. Break a leg in the back country and you may become dinner for a pack of coyotes or wolves. A man who was a very experienced back country hiker and emergency room doctor just died out there with his daughter, and they were together. I'd never go it alone in the Rocky Mountains.

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    Rbinhood, thanks for the warning. You brought up some powerful reasons not to go it alone. I still have a few weeks left and will continue to solicit a hiking companion. I'll also research altitude sickness as you recommend.

    Thanks again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rbinhood View Post
    I am surprised that only one person warned you about going from your altitude to a much higher altitude at Vail. Altitude sickness can come on in a matter of hours and totally incapacitate you in a short time. If you get the cerebral edema form, it can cause unconsciousness in a few hours, and eventually death. The pulmonary edema form comes on slower, but can be equally deadly. Years ago a friend and I rescued an elk hunter who had chosen to hunt by himself and came down with a bad case of altitude sickness(pulmonary form). But for us finding him, he would have certainly died. We were hunting ourselves outside Lake City, CO and that evening after the rescue, everyone we met had their own altitude sickess story. It does not matter what kind of shape you are in, and thin or fat. I would read up on it before you go, and unlike many here, I would strongly caution against you going alone. Nature is unforgiving. Break a leg in the back country and you may become dinner for a pack of coyotes or wolves. A man who was a very experienced back country hiker and emergency room doctor just died out there with his daughter, and they were together. I'd never go it alone in the Rocky Mountains.
    Geez he's not climbing Everest.

    August 05, 2008
    Altitude Sickness in the Vail Valley
    Some tips from CBS 4 News in Denver
    FRISCO, Colo. (CBS4) ― People that are going up to Colorado's mountains to get a break from the heat on the plains have another concern to face -- altitude sickness. It remains a common issue, particularly for visitors from out of state.

    At higher altitudes there is less barometric pressure, which is what controls the force of oxygen into people's bloodstream.

    In the month of July there has been a large increase in call volume for the sickness, says James Woodworth a paramedic with Summit County ambulance service.

    Anyone can suffer from it, and depending on the person, they can suffer for hours or days.

    Symptoms are similar to the flu. A headache typically results, but nausea and vomiting are frequent as well.

    Dr. Charles Tuft, president of Alpine Mobile Physicians, says "About one fourth of people coming to the altitude of Vail, about 8,150 (feet), are going to get some symptoms of altitude sickness."

    The most common prescription to relieve the drastic cases of illness is a night on oxygen. Oxygen will eliminate the symptoms, but doing so beforehand may prevent onset of altitude sickness. Going down to a lower altitude will typically cause symptoms to go away.

    Drinking lots of water will not prevent altitude sickness either, but doing so will keep you hydrated in case you do get sick. /quote


    FYI- your not going to meet any wolves in Vail but if you'd like to see some wolves talk with Cannibal he works with a wolf sanctuary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OutandBack View Post
    Geez he's not climbing Everest.
    I'll admit, that made me laugh.

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    Well, he's not climbing Everest, but his body does not know that, and will respond to the physical triggers of altitude wherever it is. Do not wish to ruin a planned wilderness trip because of lack of info....that said, one CAN hike alone, although it presumes a certain level of fitness and wilderness skills. Stopping about 1/2 hour before camp to eat, and then hiking on to the campsite is generally a good idea. I like bear canisters better than bags. Saves the hanging hassle, and is more easily available. I like the Garcia canister.

    I don't take books, et al, with me. I plan to practice various Bushcraft skills while out there - bow drill sets/fire making, etc. I also plan to hike near someplace that holds fish, then practice primitive ways to catch/cook them. I am not taking a 'tour' in the forest. I am learning to be self-sufficient there. But that's just me! When the Zombie Apocalypse hits, I want to be ready!
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    2 thoughts.

    Parking lots

    People aren't very likely to walk miles into the woods to rob you. If anything they'll wait by car for you to come out. A friend of mine, when coming out of the woods, if he saw someone you looked out of place in the parking, he would have a look panic and shout a dog's name. When the person(s) would look his way, he would said something like, "have you seen a 80lb pit bull? he got just got away from me. If you see him yell to me because he does bite" He would throw his stuff in the car and leave. No one ever bothered him because their eyes were watching for the non-existence dog.

    Another friend always leaves 2 or 3 gallons of water on his bumper. His thought is that if someone needs water they wouldn't break into his car looking any. Plus it was there (maybe) when he came back.

    Besides books.

    I have a guide on how to tie knots. It's folds up the size of a map. It's great for praticeing when your bored. Not to menation if you forget how to tie a certain knot out there, you have it with you.

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