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    1.1 Ripstop Nylon or 7 Denier?

    Hammock Gear sells the 3 seasons Burrow in 2 versions (1.1 Ripstop Nylon or 7 Denier).

    What is the difference and what should I choose?

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    7d fabric is a .64oz fabric. So the fabric is half the weight of the 1.1oz which is also known as 30d fabric.
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    Thanks Dblcorona. Then I assume that 1.1 Ripstop Nylon is stronger and more durable than 7 Denier.

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    The 7 d fabric is also softer to the touch and is supposed to feel great against the skin. My new burrow has M55 outer shell and 7 D inner shell. As for durability all I can really say about that is that it is a thinner material. But from what I understand plenty strong enough and durable enough to work sufficiently as a TQ material.
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    My UQ has been out a few times, cuben upper, 7D under. Absolutely no problems at all. Adam made my stuff sack of M55 which has an amazing feel to it,so in comparison, the 7D is still softer. It truly feels like the down that's insde it. For my summerish UQ with 5oz of down I saved 3.8oz on the shell, so I'd imagine you'd save somewhere in the 6-7oz ranger. So if the weight and feel is worth the extra money, go for it. The 1.1 is still very nice feeling too.

    LRR, I thought 7D was lighter than M55, M55 is 10 denier. That's strange but interesting to know, thank you.

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    Thanks for the help guys.
    Just ordered a Summer Burrow in 7 Denier.

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    I'm making a top quilt using all 7D fabric and I think it is awewome! It almost feels like silk. I weighed the fabric on my gram scale before I started and it actually weighed 0.63 oz/sy!!! At almost half the weight of 1.1 nylon and using tulle for baffles at 0.3 oz/sy, I'm going to have to keep rocks on my quilt to keep it from floating away.

    In thinner quilts, the shell and baffles usually weigh as much, if not slightly more than the down that does the insulating - not with 7D. The shell for my top quilt with 6 oz of down, weighs 3.6 oz. That's less than 10 oz total for a top quilt! And I'm 6'-1" tall, so this isn't a short quilt.

    Obviously, it's not as robust as 1.1 nylon, just as 1.1 is not as robust as 1.9 nylon, etc.
    But, it is serves it's purpose of ultralight camping gear that saves weight, yet still performs it's function and requires only the reasonable care that all ultralight equipment demands. That said, I wouldn't outfit a scout troop with this stuff
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    Quote Originally Posted by thexuprising View Post
    LRR, I thought 7D was lighter than M55, M55 is 10 denier. That's strange but interesting to know, thank you.

    So my new UQ has 7D inner and M55 outer as well as the burrow has 7D inner and M55 outer. The 7D is lighter then the M55 but from what I understand the M55 has a higher DWR rating. These quilts are rated down to 50 for the east coast hot humid summer. So yes the 7D is lighter then M55 per sq yard.
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    Ahh gotcha. I was just thinking .55oz and didn't think of the dwr coating. Makes sense now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAD777 View Post
    I'm making a top quilt using all 7D fabric and I think it is awewome! It almost feels like silk. I weighed the fabric on my gram scale before I started and it actually weighed 0.63 oz/sy!!! At almost half the weight of 1.1 nylon and using tulle for baffles at 0.3 oz/sy, I'm going to have to keep rocks on my quilt to keep it from floating away.

    In thinner quilts, the shell and baffles usually weigh as much, if not slightly more than the down that does the insulating - not with 7D. The shell for my top quilt with 6 oz of down, weighs 3.6 oz. That's less than 10 oz total for a top quilt! And I'm 6'-1" tall, so this isn't a short quilt.

    Obviously, it's not as robust as 1.1 nylon, just as 1.1 is not as robust as 1.9 nylon, etc.
    But, it is serves it's purpose of ultralight camping gear that saves weight, yet still performs it's function and requires only the reasonable care that all ultralight equipment demands. That said, I wouldn't outfit a scout troop with this stuff
    7D is a really nice fabric. I think the shell fabric on my top quilt was 3.9oz - 6'5" here. So you are right on track. Post some pics when done!

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