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    I'm another that doesn't really favor the MSH. I know a lot of people use it successfully, but I've never been able to convince myself to trust it.

    I'm very interested in what you've got going on, Dutch.
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    yea the safty of the MSH is what worried me ALOT. and thankfully ive only had to use it a couple times. another thing i didnt like about it above the chance of the toggle failing or the whoopie falling off and breaking the toggle is what the knot did to your straps since i was tying it in the same place over and over it kept crinkling my webbing up "this probably isnt causing a problem but was still troubling"

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    OMG, He finally did it! The anti-gravi-Ti whoopie hanger! I bet his delay is in finding a supplier for impossibilium.
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    i know my place in the pecking order.....Idcakes LOL
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    Count me in the "not fond of MSH" category. Correct placement is always a place to screw up. I translate "around the knot not the toggle" to "strong toggle". ;-)

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    I don't mind the MSH. Easy and weightless: has a lot going for it. Its only rare drawback is that a whoopie loop can slip off of it when you are setting it up. Even then, there are a number of ways to prevent this.

    So, contrary to many of those enthusiastically responding to this thread, I would say there is no crying need for a new device to replace the MSH. However, I probably said that about Whoopies when they were first introduced but soon changed my mind as some will remember.

    So nothing ventured nothing gained.

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    Caught my interest. Probably won't give up on the MSH... but I do like Dutch's gear...

    Any projected release date?

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    I can neither confirm nor deny if I have a Top Secret Hammock Testing Facility in my back yard here in Sector 13 as it might compromise my security clearance but I will be happy to test any new gear.
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    Actually - I am also curious of a release date - about to order some other Dutch goodies but don't wanna pay double shipping if a new toy comes out next week.
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    So, what is it?

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