Cuben hammock w/built in dual differential cut asym karo step winter UQ - first ever?

[Strung out]

Thanks again for the compliments guys.


I spent another night in this. Same setup as last report.
temps were forecast to hit 2F.
But, we only saw 10F
Winds were 5-8mph

I was very warm and compfortable.

Anyway, dude, arriving late to this party. But I LOVE your insulated cuben hammock!!!! That is awesome!!!! That's just what I need. I may have missed it, but could you do a run-down on suppliers, costs and instructions???!?! I'm not getting how you can tape baffles. THANKS!!!!!

I could get a summary of the suppliers, and costs together with a little work.
give me a few days to write it up for you.
instructions: now we are talking about some serious time involved, not to mention the loads of questions..
I want to help, but this is a large task. Let's see what kind of time I can find to work on this.

I saw this in person last week and it was just AWESOME! I can't get over how light it is and you did look comfy when I saw you sleeping from across the woods from me.
I'm not sure if you have yet, but you should take some pics of the "breather" ventilation you put in your set up to allow it to compress and help with condensation issues. I was really impressed with this system.

Also, put up a thread of those flashlights of yours. Alien abduction is the only thing I can compare the brightness to.
Fronkey

The inflation system is just borrowed from these guys enlightened equipment
I'm unsure if the idea was theirs originally or not.

The flashlights, we'll just keep that stuff separate. anyone has any questions, let me know.

Fantastic setup! I was wondering today why more hammocks don't incorporate a quilt into the design. I think what you've done is brilliant in that it effectively eliminates all those qualms you have about the UQ.

It is a very cool setup! But I can answer the question

and that's because one chooses an under-quilt for a temperature range. I have roughly four ranges I pack for, different under-insulation systems for each. But I can use the same hammock for every one.

But I agree with the sentiment that building the UQ into the hammock eliminates some of the touchy points about using an UQ.

This is a discussion that could become a complicated one.
Building a hammock from nylon with a built in UQ would be quite tricky because of stretch. Also, remember that nylon absorbs moisture and will stretch more when "wet"
Compressing your insulation would be difficult to avoid.

I use simple DIY gathered end hammocks. The cost of a new hammock for different conditions seems trivial compared to the UQ cost.
Why not have 3+ different hammocks/quilts?

As a Minnesotan, I envision my systems evolving in this direction:

Warm setup (summer, July-August) Standard single layer gathered end with sewn in bug net with zipper. Light removable Down UQ.

Spring/Fall setup - Similar construction as my cuben (built in UQ) model. Hammock made with some breathable polyester fabric with little stretch. lightweight nylon quilt shell, down insulation. Removable bug sock.

Winter - Cuben setup with built in UQ

[Strung out]

Hung again in this last night. I love this thing.
Hang the hammock, pull the TQ out of the sack, and you're done.
Zero fidgeting. Which is nice when you are bundled up with mittens on.

Temps got just below 0F last night. Light wind 5-7 mph.

I was wearing light thermals, fleece pants, light down sweater. Fleece head sok and hat on top.

I was nice and warm all night. My 2 stacked summer TQ were at their limits though. Going to work on a winter model as soon as my M90 gets here.

This hammock/UQ isn't quite "packed full" with down. I will add a few more ounces of "overstuff" and see how it handles -20 or so when that weather gets here.

[Isheian]

How much does being able to control the air in the UQ portion change the temps it would be comfortable at? How easy is it to change without letting moisture in? And are u planning on selling these?

[Dave10]

Awesome idea! Where did you get the cuben from?

[MedicineMan]

late as well but must say this is the most beautiful hammock/uq combo I've ever seen, in fact the only combo I've ever seen.
When you eventually feel totally guilted out over hovering over the trail due to the helium effect you'll get with this in your pack please let me make you an offer.

[SGT Rock]

That looks freakin' awesome.

[Dos]

WOW!
I have been hammocking for less than 3 months and have already found current UQ trends to be interesting.
just ....wow!
thank you for your insights!

[Shug]

I just got to see this hammock out in the woods live and in person...and in the minus 1º. A sight to behold!!!!!
Nice to meet you and spend some time Strung out....cocoa man.
Shug

[LostCause]

What an interesting project! Nicely done Strung out.

[ArcsandSparks]

I too saw it in person, and must say that thing is awesome! Lots of time and effort went into that bad boy. It looked very well made.