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    He mentioned that he doesn't camp in shelters or standard sites either, so I'd say what he does is no more dangerous than if he'd just setup in that same spot to cook...which again is away from shelters and other camp sites.

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    No bears in Indiana since the Bears of Blue River. Raccoons can give you a run for your victuals though. Some the new Kevlar soft bags work well with those, but its never too soon to get into the habit of bagging, and hanging.

    Gives you a little bush crafting to practice. The first time can be almost comical and over time you can learn to get pretty darn slick doing it.

    IMO a quick cup of tea and a little oatmeal or a poptart,in the morning, shouldn't make for a problem, in campsite, as long as you don't linger and adhere to strict LNT.

    Around shelters and established campsites I usually find enough crumbs and debris, to defeat nearly any purpose I may have in mind, by keeping my food away from it. *Hint half burned food and containers in a fire ring doesn't get it.

    I may use one to stop at for an afternoon meal or early supper, before moving on to a more suitable location, but that's about it. Always prefer to set-up out of sight of the trail at any rate. With a group it might be different, but solo, I don't really want just anyone walking into camp on me.
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    Thankfully, no bears in Australia, apart from the little koala bear, nothing like your bears.

    What I do have problems with is the birds, some are larger than me, but they are not the problem, the smaller birds are, mainly the scrub turkey etc. They have a beak strong enough to break into your packs, and some birds in Tasmania are smart enough to unzip your bags.

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    Bears are fairly rare in my area but they are around. The creatures to really worry about are foxes and racoons. But still bear bag all smellables.

    Just grab it on the way back from the morning bladder void and enjoy a lazy meal as I rock in the breeze. Just be careful not to spill any liquids or frying bacon and your chances of attracting critters to your gear latter on are pretty low.
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    Quote Originally Posted by obxh2o View Post
    Yep ... why worry about the next person to hang at that site?
    I'm pretty sure that after a good rainstorm any residual oatmeal I may have inadvertently dropped would be washed away. I don't and have never prepared an elaborate breakfast that requires cooking.

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    I'll have my Heiney pot stove (I only heat water in it) ready for instant coffee (the little tube types) before getting out of the hammock but I hang my food and get up for that. Like Shug said...it's not for everybody.
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    No bear in their right mind would dare to mess with me before my caffene fix. I'll take the chance depending on the area and problems...it is worth it.
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    Normally I almost never eat breakfast, though I often have something when on the trail. Up here in Idaho there is such a minimal bear population that they are not a concern in most of the areas that I hike. The bigger though for me is usually mice and chipmunks that will tear a pack apart like little kids on Christmas morning. My Pack is usually hung on my suspension or another line if it's not just laid out on the ground next to my hammock. If I am solo then I will have my morning snack in the hammock, if in a group then it seams that folks tend to congregate together and start chatting while we eat. A few minutes lounging though in the hammock before seem to be a great way to wake up, stretch, watch the sun rise........a warm cup of something seems to compliment that time well.
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    Furthering what MAD777 said.
    I think if you avoid established campsites and shelters and do the random 1:1,000,000 stealth you chances of a bear are too small to count UNLESS you are cooking bacon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MedicineMan View Post
    Furthering what MAD777 said.
    I think if you avoid established campsites and shelters and do the random 1:1,000,000 stealth you chances of a bear are too small to count UNLESS you are cooking bacon!
    And then, depending on how long I've been in the woods, I may find you.
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